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we have 23 people watching right now and

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i'm glad you guys tuned in since it was

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a last minute decision to go live let me

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i'm loud enough because

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i'm in my bedroom

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with my leg

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pushed up against myself i'm really

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and i'm shaky everything's shaky so but

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we should be live and

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i will bring jessica in in a second

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if you guys have any questions use the

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link that i put out i'll give you the

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link one more time but if you you know

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just be nice don't be rude whatever

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questions you're going to ask

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we'll do the help put off paper which i

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haven't read yet but

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if you have other questions about

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anything

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feel free to you can ask him in the chat

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or you can jump on with your audio

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um good sound is good i'm gonna bring

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i've never had a co-host like this but

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and she is

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unmuted you have to unmute yourself

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unmuted there you go welcome

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hello

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let's is it

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i'm glad you were here we talked about

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doing this for a while so

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nobody no time better than now um

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just tell people

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who you are and

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a little bit about yourself

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oh really you didn't tell me i was gonna

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have to explain myself

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um

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real basic real basic i mean i'm not

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interviewing you but i'm

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jessica

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people know me as who is axelrod or

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or go kick rocks

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on twitter

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been part of the community for a while

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when i feel like it

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i don't really do a lot of podcasts or

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shows with people

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except for recently it seems like i have

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in the past couple of weeks but

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that's about it nothing really special

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what do you remember about our first

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interaction on twitter

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you were such an [\h__\h] man

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by the way she's not kidding because

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i mean girl she pulled up all tweets and

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oh my god that's really embarrassing i

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mean i've called her clueless

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i've gone i think that was the worst and

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you're like oh it's not that bad but for

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me it's bad even your first account that

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uh has been deleted uh it was suspended

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or whatever happened with that how you

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and i have been arguing for years

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uh the guy says jess but somebody said

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she isn't wrong see oh i guarantee you

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past sorry so even in the for my first

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account i was mean to you

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oh yeah see but that's fine you and i

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can disagree all day long we can go at

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it as long but you've never been

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at the level of um

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hate and trolling that i have received

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the past couple of weeks you and i

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always disagreed but we did it you know

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each other's uh skins but that's okay

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you said that i we were respectful but

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which i have apologized for which is

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embarrassing um

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asshat it's a back and forth that's okay

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but i mean that's fine

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like we weren't like trying to uh

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tear each other apart

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this is true this is true um folks if

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anything going on in the past couple of

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let me know otherwise i'll go to the

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help put off paper and i'll read it

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which i have not read have you have you

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is jessica a ufo researcher by the way

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us how many years did you lead the

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now that's [\h__\h] up the whole [\h__\h]

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hypersonic missile which i thought was i

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thought it was ridiculous right i said

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so but then richard butts who allegedly

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has uh a clearance and i i like richard

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but he was so offended by what jessica

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when did you leave the taliban i'm just

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top and i know what he was trying to do

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hypersonic missile theory is ridiculous

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ridiculous but it was in another

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universe ridiculous and it was so over

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that unless people bring up specifics

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about the last couple of days or any

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we do have ludicrous let's just let's

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just bring somebody in right now because

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i i disagree with him a lot let's bring

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how y'all doing

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all right i think we i think we spoke on

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the spaces the other day too right yeah

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yeah we did we did we did i just wanted

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to show my face also so people don't

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start accusing me of being mourin or

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anything like that you know what's up

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man it's nice to see you

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yeah yeah yeah i'm a real person yeah so

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you know what i mean i think that the

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context in nuance gets lost

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if that makes sense because i enjoy all

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of your youtubes i enjoy your blog

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so we just disagree on a few things

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highly respect your work so i think you

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do a great job so i appreciate it that

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just goes to show that people can

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maybe take cheap shots here and there

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which i should work on because i can be

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a bit of a dick sometimes

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um on on here here

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it's uh but it's nice to be able to talk

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to you you know and jess you know uh you

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i was just gonna speak on the plasma

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thing in like my morin

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it's that old yet and that was a plan

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morin is not in it he's deactivated his

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think something good will come from this

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know we're never we're never gonna all

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get along it's just not gonna happen you

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know it's but more of us can get along

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disagree with more we'll be able to

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learn more share more

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it's great to look at it from all angles

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i know it's hard to do that because

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we're so tribalistic but that's

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stop fighting so damn much and like you

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battle don't ask me what we battle about

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i battle about when we first battled you

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asked me i'm like you think i remember i

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don't i don't retain that stuff it's

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everything since 2017 and before that um

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to be our technology and i said i don't

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think that's the case but as i said on

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twitter the other day if we do have this

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tech and a lot of it is ours i'll be

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thrilled that we were able to create or

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maybe crack gravity i would be happy

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about that that would be even bigger

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than if et was here because we would

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change our world and our environment

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overnight so i don't think that's the

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case i mean i give it a little

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possibility but there's too many things

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that have gone on in the old days which

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make me think you know in my opinion yes

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something and you've agreed with this

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too something anomalous is here do you

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agree with that ludicrous something

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there's a percentage of what we're

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seeing is anomalous

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oh 100

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yeah

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definitely and i think

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i think the more that you talk to these

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people who are labeled as skeptics or

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whatever

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i don't think i've ever met a skeptic

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who doesn't believe that there's

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something anomalous here

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i

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but he would not say that he would say

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maybe

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i mean he gets a lot of attention he's

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not the entire

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community there are a lot of people who

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i talk to on a daily basis

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who they're open to other things they're

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open to the paranormal uh some people

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are skeptical but they're only skeptical

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on one side of it like they're skeptical

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of you know this current

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uh what's going on within the government

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right now um and one thing i would like

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to say about you is you know

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like i said earlier when i first met you

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i thought this guy's an [\h__\h] but then

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i started looking at your

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work i went to your website i saw

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everything that you had done

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and i actually

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pulled research from your own website

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and to use in arguments that you and i

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had back and forth so that's when i was

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like okay well maybe i'm i need to give

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him

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i need to not

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kind of prejudge you i think everybody

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prejudges everybody

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i think that's what's wrong with the

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community everybody like tag teams and

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just picks a corner

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no 100 it's social media it's really bad

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as as ludicrous said it's like when you

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see somebody face to face i'm much more

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calm on and i told you i have a i have a

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twitter persona i don't do that on

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purpose though that's just how it is

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when you're not face to face when you're

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face to face like this i mean and people

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will ask me in these things about

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whether it's john greenwald or stephen

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greenstreet i i react totally different

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i still disagree about stuff but i don't

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i don't attack for whatever reason maybe

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i should just be on youtube and forget

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twitter but i love twitter so that's not

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going to happen

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yeah

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i think also though is some of it i know

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some of our interactions

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is

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where i get like a snarky or a smart ass

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remark it's usually one that's um

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warranted because i'm i thought

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sometimes i will go into a thread with a

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stick and try to poke the hornet's nest

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a little bit and i've been working on

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not doing that

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and it's i don't know

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yeah

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and part of it is frustration like like

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i

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a letdown after let down after letdown

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it was followed up with like the linda

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moulton howell antarctica stuff you know

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i bought the you know i bought all these

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documentaries i believe all these people

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and

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are scammers you know some of them

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aren't some of them used to do really

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good work

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maybe something's changed i don't know

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it just uh it jaded me for a while so

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i took a little bit of a set back and

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realized that i can be a bit of a

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close-minded prick on on twitter so

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because i there's no way that i can say

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no you didn't see that

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that experience didn't happen to you

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right

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you know i can't say that and for a

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while i thought i could and you know

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since then i've taken some steps back

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and riled my frustration and went not

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kind of back under control but

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i'll still take some shots here and

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there but it's not

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i try to be more open-minded and

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listen more and be more respectful in my

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disagreeing

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i will too

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so jessica

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and so will danny bedtime silva

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who is

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not visible right now and hopefully he's

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not getting his pajamas

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i'm not wearing a shirt i'm shirtless

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no one wants this

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so what's going on danny it's been a

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long time since we've been on a feed

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together

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yeah

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i don't know man uh not much i'm glad to

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see the this love fest going on between

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everyone being uh

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happy and uh

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and uh and coming together for the

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subject or something like that right

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yeah it'll last for an hour and then

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when we go back to twitter we'll hate

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each other again but uh no that will it

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things are getting better but it's

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always going to be contentious because

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it's the most important story

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in the history of the planet if we're

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dealing with something non-human that's

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interacting with us and maybe

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manipulating us i mean

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yes we're all passionate about it if

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there's some disinformation being mixed

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in we're passionate about that too so

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and if we have technology we're

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passionate about that so yeah it's uh

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but it's been like this for a long time

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and it's not just ufology people if you

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go to other twitter

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if you go to other other twitter

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subjects

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like college football or something like

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that it's just as bad it's it can be

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worse i mean i i have threats of

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physical violence because i talked about

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one specific football player you know i

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said this person i believe he got away

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with rape and that's when my alleged you

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know that's when i got violence threats

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against me so it's just as bad elsewhere

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it's not just here

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and that's you know we're all basically

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a bunch of stephen a smiths and if

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someone doesn't know who that is he's a

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sports

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commentator

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and we're all kind of just like sports

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commentators dropping hot takes

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sharing our opinions and when you share

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your opinion

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it gives people the chance to either

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disagree with it or agree with it so

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that's why there's so much disagreeing

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and agreeing and

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debate because we're all just sharing

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our opinions putting ourselves out there

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and um

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just like you you were talking about the

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sports world even though you know the

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the crime in the sports world is a

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little bit different but you know we're

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all just basically sports commentators

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kind of from the outside looking in you

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know we

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i wouldn't really consider any of

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ourselves

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players like you know like in the nba

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we're more like just commentators and uh

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i don't know

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so i just came to that epiphany where

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we're basically just talking over here

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or sharing opinions and it gives when

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you share your opinions it gives people

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reason to either agree with you and hate

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you over it or

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debate you or

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respect you or whatever it is that's

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what we do

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yeah it's um

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we're the i'm the water boy i'm not even

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i'm not even a coach i am the water boy

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and somebody vancouver guy says the

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longer you're in this field the more

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skeptical you become usually because it

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definitely does not fit me um most of

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the oldest veteran researchers that have

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been around since the early days are

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very skeptical people

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so my question for you guys would be and

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i've talked about this recently you know

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i

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one

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video making a 90 degree turn and

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starting and stopping on a dime i mean i

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said next christmas 2023 of christmas

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obviously that's not really a cut-off

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point but you know there's so much going

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on with congress so that's really good

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but eventually we need to see some of

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this evidence what do you guys think

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danny start out it's the same as what we

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were talking about on um vinnie's show

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the other day and it's like

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obviously

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in my opinion of course like i shouldn't

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say obviously in my opinion

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lou and other people they tease this

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stuff

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because they want to put pressure

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on

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whoever is keeping it

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i am i'm this is just my opinion i'm

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guessing here but maybe it's to get us

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riled up get us demanding it

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leak it that it exists

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and uh maybe put pressure on them i

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don't know or maybe it was a slip of the

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tongue

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and he should never have mentioned the

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23-minute video or whatever it is but

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you know ryan um post-disclosure ufo

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jesus was you know

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uh showing his frustration the other day

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on vinnie's show and and i agree with

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him too it's like

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we hear about this stuff and we just

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want to freaking see it already

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and uh

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it's hard man it's hard unlike

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the sports world since i'm making the

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sports um

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analogies

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they get to play the big game once a

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year and get that release right

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it's like we have

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we don't necessarily ever have that

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release we're waiting for the super bowl

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to happen and it's like never happened i

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don't know i'm just making analogies

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maybe maybe they don't make sense but

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you guys know what i mean here it's like

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we don't sense yeah we don't we don't

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get like the

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the end of the season and then the off

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season and all this kind of thing it's

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like we're just on this

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same trajectory

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and it is incredibly frustrating then we

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want this evidence and we want um

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this stuff to happen i don't know at the

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same time we get the great the progress

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and

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so we get to we get to get the lead up

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uh

561
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i will say that danny i've followed you

562
00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:40,880
for like five years now

563
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:42,240
um

564
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:44,080
you're one of the people that

565
00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:45,840
one of the very few people that i don't

566
00:20:50,149 --> 00:20:48,880
think i've ever publicly disagreed with

567
00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:50,159
um

568
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:51,760
of course i see some of your opinions

569
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:53,360
and i'm like okay well you know i'll

570
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:55,360
take that i don't necessarily agree but

571
00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:56,720
i'm not going to push against you

572
00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:57,919
because everybody's entitled to their

573
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:58,880
opinion

574
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,880
but the thing that i respect most about

575
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:02,400
you is that

576
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,710
the first guys after 2017 that come into

577
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,559
this field and you were

578
00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:12,320
you you don't shy away from hard

579
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:13,600
questions man

580
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:14,960
you push people

581
00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:17,520
i've seen it i've seen you on podcasts

582
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:19,200
i've seen you in spaces i've seen you on

583
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:21,520
twitter you don't shy away you

584
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:24,000
respectfully ask questions

585
00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:26,080
and i would encourage everybody to do

586
00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:29,120
that regardless of what side you're on

587
00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:31,360
so

588
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,679
i just wish everybody could be as calm

589
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:35,440
and it was cool and i know that even you

590
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,760
and joe have gone at it and disagreed

591
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:39,600
but you know

592
00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:41,200
i get a kick out of both of you i have

593
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:43,280
my times and i go through phases of my

594
00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:45,760
personalities and stuff and

595
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:47,280
i don't know i think i've been arguing

596
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:49,360
less this last year just because

597
00:21:52,149 --> 00:21:50,799
i've been going through it personally

598
00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:52,159
and professionally as i've been tweeting

599
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:54,159
about recently but um

600
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,760
i don't know sometimes i do want to

601
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:58,080
argue about stuff and sometimes i'm more

602
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,880
like

603
00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:00,480
what ryan was saying on vinnie's show

604
00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:02,000
where it's just like

605
00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:04,320
we're debating minutia

606
00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:05,919
um at the end of the day i don't know i

607
00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:07,600
go through a lot of different emotions

608
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:09,280
man and

609
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:11,360
we all do it's a very emotional topic

610
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:13,520
and very personal for a lot of us like

611
00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:15,520
we're in this for life most people

612
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:17,440
because we have something to prove to

613
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:19,520
ourselves like we we have questions that

614
00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:22,080
we want fundamental questions of our

615
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,270
yeah and i'm

616
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:29,360
i'm not as uh

617
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,360
i'm not as enthralled by every little

618
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:33,440
detail as i was in years past and that's

619
00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:35,679
why i don't write as much

620
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:37,919
um i did write up the uh or just

621
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,520
basically i just shared my website the

622
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:41,360
how put off paper because that's a huge

623
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:42,400
thing we've been waiting for it for

624
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:44,559
years and years that's crazy but i'm

625
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:46,400
waiting for it i haven't been writing

626
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:49,039
like every little detail um

627
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:50,640
because it's just not as exciting to me

628
00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:53,200
as it used to be unfortunately

629
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:55,840
and um but also

630
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:56,640
uh

631
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:59,039
we have a lot more people involved now

632
00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:00,320
and

633
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:03,760
for themselves back in the day we were

634
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:05,520
going two years at a time a year at a

635
00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:07,760
time where we'd get like one lou

636
00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:09,120
interview it would be with george knapp

637
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:10,960
or he wouldn't even be talking and i

638
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,400
guess that was because of his work until

639
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:14,080
the stars academy so

640
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,760
at that point i was like we had to dig

641
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,760
for info but now we have

642
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:19,440
all these interviews from guys like lou

643
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:20,799
gary nolan

644
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,799
melon's been pretty quiet

645
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,480
um but a lot of these guys are speaking

646
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,400
for themselves more jim semivans even

647
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:28,640
talking now he never used to talk so

648
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:29,760
it's like i feel like i don't have to

649
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:31,919
play that role as much as i used to

650
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:33,440
and the one thing and i'll bring in

651
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,880
ludicrous in one second the one thing

652
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:36,320
about danny when i would listen to his

653
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:37,600
interviews you know i would i would

654
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:39,200
always get worked up i couldn't help

655
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:40,880
myself i'd be raising my voice and then

656
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,880
i'd listen to myself back and i'm like

657
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:44,400
what the hell are you doing and then i

658
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,919
listen to danny he's like yeah

659
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:47,200
then you know you know like that and

660
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:48,880
then he's just that's when i'm sitting

661
00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:53,830
thank you

662
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:55,440
ludacris jump in there

663
00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:58,080
yeah i think i was at one time maybe one

664
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:01,120
of the only people blocked by danny

665
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:02,720
we got into it i couldn't even tell you

666
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,559
what it was over but i know that i was

667
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:06,320
strawmenting some argument like that

668
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:06,960
like

669
00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,320
yeah no no it might have been longer

670
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,080
than that i can't remember but yeah it

671
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:14,400
was a while but i remember saying this

672
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:16,559
in my danny silva block me like it's a

673
00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:19,120
joke like uh you know and he's like damn

674
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:20,400
what'd you do i was like what are you

675
00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,919
talking about he's like he doesn't block

676
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:23,600
anybody you must have said some [\h__\h]

677
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,240
up sorrowful language messed up seth

678
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:27,840
you know and i was like it made me

679
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:30,000
reflect i was like did i

680
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:31,840
i think we were just arguing maybe i was

681
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:34,559
just being a complete jerk you know

682
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:36,559
and then one day danny had me unblocked

683
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,559
i just randomly ran across and i was

684
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:40,080
like sweet so

685
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,960
um

686
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:42,720
so i want to apologize for that danny if

687
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:44,799
you remember more what it was i'm sure

688
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,480
it was me being it doesn't it doesn't

689
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:48,159
matter but i do appreciate it yeah i

690
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:49,840
enjoy your think you're doing now i

691
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:52,240
enjoy your take i was way too critical

692
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:54,400
during that time period and

693
00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:56,400
like i said i was i was in a frustrated

694
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:58,400
part where i felt like i'd come to a

695
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:59,360
head

696
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,600
and things weren't going anywhere and

697
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:03,520
the people that i looked up to things

698
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:05,360
were coming out

699
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:09,279
you know that exposed things that

700
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:10,480
that they weren't as credible as what

701
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:11,679
they said

702
00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:13,760
things like that but

703
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,240
but for me to say equate that there's no

704
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:18,080
phenomenon because i was live you know

705
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:19,760
because i looked into things or believed

706
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,360
people more than i should have

707
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:23,520
it was a fault on my part that doesn't

708
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:25,679
change the fact that things are going on

709
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:27,520
and there's unexplained things that are

710
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:29,360
happening all the time so

711
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,720
you see and i see that happen with

712
00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:31,919
people i've seen that happen where they

713
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:33,200
were into the phenomenon they were

714
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:34,559
obsessed by it and then they got

715
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:36,880
frustrated and they became debunkers not

716
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:39,200
just skeptics they became debunkers um

717
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:41,120
so that happens so give yourself credit

718
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,120
for you not going totally down that road

719
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:45,840
and realizing it just because there's uh

720
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:47,840
shenanigans and grifters and all that

721
00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:49,120
stuff it doesn't mean there's not

722
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:51,279
something here so yeah i'm gonna let you

723
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,159
know

724
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:54,480
i went pretty far i went pretty far

725
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,480
listening to goof on and stuff like that

726
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:58,880
which i regret that is pretty far

727
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:00,720
and i felt burned

728
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,799
i've definitely felt burned by people

729
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:04,799
and we put all these people on pedestals

730
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:05,760
um

731
00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:07,600
and for good or bad probably we

732
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:09,919
shouldn't but not all of them are on the

733
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:12,799
same page all the time either and they

734
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:14,400
argue in debate too they just don't do

735
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:16,000
it on social media they do it on emails

736
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:17,360
or in person

737
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,440
and it's hard when you

738
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,520
put your faith in someone

739
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:23,600
and even if you don't get fully burnt

740
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:25,760
but you just see like them changing

741
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,520
their mind about something me and joe go

742
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,360
through this a lot because we we put so

743
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:31,440
much weight on sources and we see our

744
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:33,679
sources we respect sometimes they change

745
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,880
their mind and they're allowed to change

746
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:36,240
their mind but it's

747
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:38,080
hard because it's like you told me this

748
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,520
and it was like i

749
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:41,200
i took that to the bank when you told me

750
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:42,960
that man and and now you're changing

751
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:45,039
your mind i'm hearing something else and

752
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:47,520
it's just crazy but but uh we've seen

753
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:50,320
that from ttsa kind of uh you know

754
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:52,080
breaking up and and all this other kind

755
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:53,840
of thing and i don't know so i feel you

756
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:54,880
and i

757
00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:57,679
i'm skeptical about certain people and

758
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,360
certain things or

759
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:01,360
i just have to take it with a grain of

760
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:03,200
salt more so um i don't always talk

761
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:04,880
about it publicly but

762
00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:06,640
i don't know i feel you and it is crazy

763
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:08,559
that some of the biggest

764
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:10,400
pro guys

765
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,880
kind of like turn to the dark side they

766
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,240
probably they have their reasons though

767
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,559
to do it i mean look at um

768
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:18,480
our best friend uh stephen greenstreet i

769
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:20,960
mean he was like this main believer guy

770
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:22,640
and now he's like darth vader or

771
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:23,760
something but i think he's actually

772
00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:25,279
pretty right you know

773
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:26,960
yeah he is i mean i think he hit the

774
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,080
same wall i did maybe a different timing

775
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:31,840
yeah you know and i think everyone

776
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,760
reacts it different like instead of

777
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:35,760
taking the off-ramp like i'm done with

778
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:38,399
it like i wanted to to keep going

779
00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,880
because that's what what if i'm wrong

780
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:42,720
you know because i want it you know i've

781
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,559
seen some orbs i've seen some weird

782
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:45,760
stuff and

783
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:48,159
to just say that that what i saw was

784
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:51,440
military or what have you

785
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,880
been doing i've never seen anything i'm

786
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:54,399
kind of coming from a different place so

787
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,200
i've never seen anything at all

788
00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:00,240
joe told me that right now

789
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:03,200
is probably the best time

790
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:05,120
for everybody to come together

791
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,279
and hopefully all out of all of this

792
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:09,520
fighting that's been going on hopefully

793
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:12,799
it unites people because i have seen

794
00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:15,200
more open minds on the skeptical side

795
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:17,360
and the believer's side i think that we

796
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:19,360
are both in the same place we are both

797
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:21,360
wanting the same answers

798
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,279
and

799
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:25,360
maybe that's what's lacking maybe that's

800
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:27,200
what's been lacking from the beginning

801
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:28,799
maybe we need to

802
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:30,880
end this tribalism

803
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:32,640
and all actually come together as a

804
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:33,919
community

805
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:35,600
i know that's going to be hard because i

806
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:37,600
know everybody hates each other's guts

807
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:38,480
but

808
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:40,240
maybe it's time to mend some of those

809
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:41,200
fences

810
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,590
thank you so much for letting me jump on

811
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:51,760
and share joe i think i do highly

812
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:54,000
respect your work man and appreciate you

813
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,440
letting me come on and voice my peace

814
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:57,440
and and i look forward to seeing you on

815
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:58,880
on twitter and i'm going to let's catch

816
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,480
the rest of the show here and listen

817
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:01,919
sounds good luda thanks for coming

818
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:03,919
thanks for being here anytime

819
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:05,360
i'm also going to bring somebody back on

820
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:07,120
um somebody

821
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:13,990
i thought john music in the chat he's a

822
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:16,399
he's a good buddy and he's a good voice

823
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:18,080
i'd like to hear him more if he wanted

824
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:19,520
to jump in

825
00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:21,039
but there's so many there's so many new

826
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,159
that comes in on um let me say joe 5d is

827
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:26,159
that comic joe 5d i'm not sure but

828
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:27,360
anyway he says

829
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,720
stop waiting for the government for

830
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:30,399
answers and that's and i always say i'm

831
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:31,360
not waiting for the government for

832
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:32,720
answers i i mean

833
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:34,000
i don't know if on our own we're going

834
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:35,360
to figure out anything i mean you could

835
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:36,640
talk about

836
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:38,480
new age metaphysical stuff meditation

837
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:39,679
and that kind of stuff but as far as

838
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:41,039
government i just want their data i

839
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,320
don't want answers i just want their

840
00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:44,640
data and let the best scientists philos

841
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:46,000
philosophers and

842
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:47,600
all the experts of the world look at the

843
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:48,960
best data that's really what i want from

844
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,159
the government

845
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:52,080
i'll give joe my rebuttal i give

846
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:53,440
everyone that i've been saying for years

847
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,200
and years we don't need the government

848
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:57,440
we're in the ufo community the public is

849
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:58,640
the one that needs the government we're

850
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:00,240
trying to get the public on board and

851
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:02,000
they don't believe us they only believe

852
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:03,919
the government it sucks but that's where

853
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:05,120
we're at

854
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,640
well they don't believe us because we're

855
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,640
constantly fighting they're like what

856
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:10,559
the hell are these crazy people talking

857
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,320
about i don't think it's so hard to

858
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,880
understand it i don't think so my family

859
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:16,320
and friends don't know anything about

860
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:18,559
ufo twitter so their non-belief really

861
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:20,000
has nothing to do with that from what i

862
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:21,360
can see they're just not interested and

863
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,039
like you know so-and-so is sick

864
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:25,279
so-and-so is dealing with this sorry

865
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,880
so-and-so is dealing with

866
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:28,320
not paying a bill not being able to pay

867
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:30,080
the rent and it's just and i've said

868
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:31,120
this before and it's definitely

869
00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:32,960
conspiracy based i'm like is that the

870
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:35,279
way the system is people cannot even

871
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:36,480
worry about this stuff they're so

872
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:38,080
concerned about rent and gas and all

873
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:39,760
that stuff they can't even look into

874
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,240
this stuff they don't have time for this

875
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:44,080
that that's what it is unfortunately and

876
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:45,440
then and they're just not going to

877
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:46,640
believe us they're not going to believe

878
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:47,600
anyone

879
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:48,960
they may not even bri believe the

880
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:52,720
president in 2022 but but they need like

881
00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:55,440
these greater uh authorities to tell

882
00:30:58,630 --> 00:30:56,960
them what's going on or they're just not

883
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:58,640
going to care and

884
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,679
that's why

885
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,679
us fighting for the media and fighting

886
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,120
for um

887
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:05,120
the government transparency is to get

888
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:07,120
the rest of the people on board and

889
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:08,799
maybe we're stupid for caring i don't

890
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:10,640
know but uh

891
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:13,039
we care what other people think so um

892
00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:15,120
but not everyone does i do because i'm

893
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:16,720
trying to get the public on board but uh

894
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:18,720
no i'm the same way uh that dude are you

895
00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:19,679
there

896
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,679
yeah hey thanks for having me on joe no

897
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:23,120
problem thanks for coming on it's nice

898
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,640
to have people come on

899
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,640
yeah no i agree with you guys though the

900
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:28,799
thing with the public though is no one's

901
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:30,960
really going to accept this until it's

902
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:32,480
blasted across

903
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:35,440
all aspects of media so it's like cnn

904
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,200
fox news msnbc are doing a week-long

905
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:41,360
coverage of it you got the view talking

906
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:43,840
about it you have it trending on twitter

907
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:47,440
uh it's got a get everyone and it can't

908
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:49,760
just be for one day it has to be

909
00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:51,760
repeated just because our attention

910
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:53,360
spans are so short just like you're

911
00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:55,200
saying joe people have

912
00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:57,039
so many things in their personal lives

913
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:59,039
going on not to mention just the

914
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,360
constant update of a news cycle our

915
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,600
memories are so short we can't even

916
00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:05,360
remember what the hot topic was three

917
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:11,830
no i 100 i mean the attention span is

918
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:14,640
such an issue it's nothing i mean and

919
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:17,039
it's like i do i did a three-hour show

920
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:18,960
with michael vi last week by the way

921
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:20,480
somebody asked me if you're watching i'm

922
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:21,760
going to do a show at michael levi we're

923
00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:23,360
going to deal with uh unconventional

924
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:25,519
objects the book by paul hill who worked

925
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:27,519
for nasa actually figured out how to see

926
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,440
ufos and where they line up where they

927
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:31,200
show up um but yeah it's a it's a

928
00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:32,720
problem i do a three hour video on

929
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:33,919
youtube

930
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:35,679
nowadays kids they don't want to watch a

931
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,360
three hour video i need to i need to do

932
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,960
a better job of pulling

933
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:40,320
clips from that because people have a

934
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:42,640
couple of minute you know attention span

935
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,840
so i don't we're not going to be able to

936
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:45,360
overcome that unless

937
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:46,960
like you said something comes out that's

938
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:49,200
just undeniable and then the news media

939
00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:50,960
just takes off and once the news media

940
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,799
does take off if there's enough evidence

941
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,720
to show there's something anomalous here

942
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,159
it's going to be non-stop it's going to

943
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,799
be every day all day i would think some

944
00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:00,320
of us will be in demand because we've

945
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:02,000
been at it for so long they'll want our

946
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:04,399
take it's going to be crazy i don't know

947
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:05,919
i think we're ready for it

948
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:08,320
next time tick tock though

949
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:13,990
that's going to be the future um

950
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,399
you know kind of the ufo stars or media

951
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,000
personalities are going to come from

952
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:20,320
tick tock whoever can condense it down

953
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:28,310
i agree i agree um

954
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:31,600
anything else on your mind

955
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,159
no you know i i'm surprised you even

956
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,480
called me on here just because uh

957
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:38,880
you know i'm a a spectator to ufo

958
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:41,120
twitter so uh

959
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:42,399
i don't know it's pretty interesting

960
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,240
seeing all the personal

961
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,799
spats going on so much of the drama that

962
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:48,720
i i have no idea what you guys are even

963
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:50,720
talking about i don't even know who this

964
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:56,549
i don't know it's just interesting

965
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:58,960
trying to learn more about the inner

966
00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:00,880
like interpersonal workings that are

967
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:03,039
going on behind the scene

968
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:05,200
um because that's also leading me down

969
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:07,760
rabbit holes and

970
00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:10,320
figuring out what's going on but

971
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,280
no i i mean

972
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:16,159
i i kind of listened to

973
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:17,760
who you just had on

974
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:19,760
lucid

975
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,919
ludacris yeah ludacris

976
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,440
you know i kind of went down the same

977
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:26,000
pathway of him of you know i was down

978
00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:28,000
the bob lazar thing for a while then i

979
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:30,399
got sucked into the uh hollow earth

980
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:32,720
theory and antarctica bases

981
00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:34,800
and i did my research and have my

982
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:36,639
opinions and either decide on some

983
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,560
things like no that's just total

984
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,320
crackpot or

985
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:42,720
yeah maybe something's going on but

986
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:45,040
i i didn't take any of it personal you

987
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,280
know i didn't feel cheated or hurt or

988
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:49,280
upset by it i just

989
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:51,040
oh okay because

990
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:52,560
you know if anything it was just

991
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:54,159
entertainment

992
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:56,560
but it seems like him and the green

993
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:57,599
streets

994
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:00,480
you know they they're deeply hurt by

995
00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:03,520
this feeling of being conned or led

996
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,440
astray

997
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:06,960
it's just kind of

998
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,079
interesting to watch and observe

999
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:13,040
no i agree i do agree um

1000
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,480
i was gonna ask jessica something

1001
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,480
because she said something that i

1002
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,000
disagreed with oh yeah yeah and you

1003
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:20,320
mentioned you mentioned wilcock and

1004
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:21,680
and jessica jessica was on twitter

1005
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:22,800
saying you know

1006
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:24,800
people should be happy the skeptics

1007
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:27,200
debunked wilcock but for folks who have

1008
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:28,960
been in this for a long time we debunked

1009
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:32,480
wilcock many many years ago corey good

1010
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:34,800
never gave him one second of my time

1011
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:36,640
emery smith who said he did all these

1012
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,960
autopsies on et i'm like really give me

1013
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:40,400
a break and then you have all of the

1014
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,160
guys who are time traveling taking

1015
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:44,400
portals back and forth to mars so i'm

1016
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,760
glad that other people have called them

1017
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:47,359
out for some other fee because they did

1018
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:49,200
have a big fan base so that that is good

1019
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,800
that those folks you know made it clear

1020
00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:52,320
they were

1021
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:57,839
church was having him on non-stop

1022
00:36:01,829 --> 00:36:00,640
jimmy searched at him on not long ago

1023
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,839
that's what i was thinking it was an

1024
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:03,599
extreme example

1025
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:06,800
of uh probably one of the most extreme

1026
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:09,920
examples of something that the skeptics

1027
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,119
have done for the community is corey

1028
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:15,520
goode and david wilcock like they were

1029
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:18,400
exposed for their [\h__\h] and you know

1030
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,320
how many people how many followers they

1031
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,640
have still you know how many how much

1032
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:24,480
money that they make still you know how

1033
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:25,680
many people

1034
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:29,119
eat it up it's crazy it's sad it's

1035
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:31,280
really sad

1036
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:34,160
um i'm gonna let you go

1037
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,760
that dude i'm gonna bring somebody else

1038
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:37,599
on thank you for being here and gary if

1039
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:39,040
you see that link you want to jump on

1040
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:41,920
you can yeah thanks for having me joe no

1041
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:44,160
problem have a good night

1042
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:46,079
i'm just bringing this guy

1043
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:49,280
bart you have to unmute yourself

1044
00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:51,520
um yeah wilcock i remember he was doing

1045
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,119
live streams and he was getting these

1046
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:55,280
super chats it was insane and then he

1047
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:58,079
was charging 333 dollars for his class

1048
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,119
which

1049
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:01,359
he was getting um and when he first came

1050
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,880
out in 2000 he wrote a paper with

1051
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:04,960
richard hoagland who was controversial i

1052
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:08,640
loved hoagland though um but i feel like

1053
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:11,680
those more extreme grifters who are

1054
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:14,560
just sucking all of the money out of the

1055
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:15,920
community i think i feel like they're

1056
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:18,079
getting less and less because more

1057
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:19,760
people are speaking out against them

1058
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:21,520
that's not a bad thing

1059
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:23,040
especially if we're going to take this

1060
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:25,520
serious

1061
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,119
here's something i'm going to play the

1062
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,359
skeptic right now though and of course

1063
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,960
jump in when you want bart

1064
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,320
okay okay

1065
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:33,839
and of course i agree with you guys that

1066
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:36,640
i don't believe those guys stories

1067
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,040
but have we actually proven them to be

1068
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,960
wrong which ones

1069
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:42,640
i don't know look corey good for example

1070
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:45,119
how can we prove such a wise how can we

1071
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:47,119
or disprove such a wild story no i don't

1072
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:49,119
believe this story and i think no you

1073
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,440
generally yeah it's like how can you

1074
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:53,200
disprove that he was on mars or whatever

1075
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,359
he says it's crazy well he and david

1076
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:57,040
wilcock right now are trying to build a

1077
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,079
spaceship and a hangar that they have so

1078
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:02,000
just like ttsa give it a couple years

1079
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:03,599
and we'll find out

1080
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:05,760
i mean i think ttsa was i mean jim

1081
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:07,520
semivan who's no slouch the guy he

1082
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:08,480
talked about he goes that's what

1083
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:10,480
interested in him just just the idea of

1084
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:12,079
trying to mimic

1085
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:13,839
what they know is possible based on

1086
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:15,920
sightings whatever it is our tech or

1087
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:17,920
something else it's possible so they're

1088
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:18,640
like

1089
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:20,800
semi-van said if not send even steve

1090
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:22,240
justice he goes if it's possible and

1091
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:24,640
it's been seen like kelly johnson who

1092
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:26,480
worked at skunk works he had an

1093
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:27,920
amazing sighting

1094
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:29,920
the idea was if it's if it's there and

1095
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:32,560
it's flying it can be done so

1096
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,240
i don't think it's yet we still don't

1097
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:37,280
have any spaceships it's like uh wilcock

1098
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:39,839
copied gtsa and their whole idea in the

1099
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,320
beginning of hey we're going to build a

1100
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:44,240
spaceship it was like a couple years

1101
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,320
after that here comes wilcox out saying

1102
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:47,920
hey we're going to spill the spaceship

1103
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,520
for you and

1104
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:51,760
nobody's seen a spaceship yet so

1105
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,640
i guess you know only time can tell

1106
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:56,160
part of the problem with these guys is

1107
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:58,079
that they're amazing storytellers

1108
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:01,280
they're like evil geniuses man like

1109
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:02,880
i always tell joe this like when i

1110
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:05,280
listen to uh daniel burrish

1111
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:07,280
on youtube like his stories are so good

1112
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:09,680
like i love them and i want them to be

1113
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:11,760
true like they're so entertaining and i

1114
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:13,359
still have like a soft spot in my heart

1115
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:15,040
for daniel burrish even though i don't

1116
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:17,440
believe anything he says but his stories

1117
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:19,119
are so freaking good and like even if

1118
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:20,720
you listen to corey good like the

1119
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,240
stories are so like cool and

1120
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:24,960
entertaining and he tells them so well i

1121
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:26,640
don't know that new people coming into

1122
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:28,720
the subject will be able to

1123
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:30,880
you know determine um what's what unless

1124
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:33,040
they you know get on ufo twitter i

1125
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:35,040
didn't know at first that corey good was

1126
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,040
totally full of crap and um

1127
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:39,680
my friend daniel allen jones

1128
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:41,440
uh was like yeah i don't think i believe

1129
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:42,400
that guy

1130
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:43,839
you better watch it i was like oh wow

1131
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:44,880
okay

1132
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,560
i feel like everybody's gone down that

1133
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:48,240
rabbit hole i remember listening to the

1134
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:49,839
whole 20 in back

1135
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,800
podcast in my truck on my lunch break

1136
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:55,200
and just thinking what the hell am i

1137
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:56,480
listening to

1138
00:40:02,310 --> 00:39:59,599
and that was years and years ago but

1139
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:02,320
i guess like my example of what you just

1140
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:05,680
said danny would be bob lazar i i know

1141
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,400
that there are a lot of sketchy thing

1142
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,400
things in the guy's background i know

1143
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:12,720
he's probably completely full of [\h__\h]

1144
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,000
but he is like one of those cult figures

1145
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:17,920
that at this point i take him as a

1146
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:21,359
sci-fi cult icon and i love his story

1147
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:23,599
it's a phenomenal story i would love for

1148
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:26,000
it to eventually one day be proven true

1149
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:26,960
i have

1150
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,319
no doubt that that's never going to

1151
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,040
happen but i'm never going to

1152
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,920
stop being sort of a bizarre fan girl i

1153
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:35,280
guess you could say

1154
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:37,280
even though i acknowledge in my mind

1155
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:38,720
that you know

1156
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:40,640
i don't really feed into it and believe

1157
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:42,400
it you can have

1158
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:44,640
you can have those

1159
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:46,640
people that you look up to and admire

1160
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,160
just because you've seen it for so many

1161
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,319
years but still take what their story is

1162
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:52,800
with a grain of salt yes i don't know

1163
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,440
the answer to uh lazar but he does uh

1164
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,359
some of the things he said does match up

1165
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:58,960
now that we're noticing but i don't want

1166
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,880
to get all into that but i don't have

1167
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:02,640
the strongest opinions on those aren't

1168
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:03,599
louis

1169
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:04,640
said

1170
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:07,680
yes go ahead uh bart yeah i found this

1171
00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:09,839
on uh twitter you know louis elizondo is

1172
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,280
i think he's a person that's really

1173
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:13,200
trying to get the truth out but he's

1174
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:14,480
being um

1175
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,720
held back by his mda

1176
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:18,880
and you know he's a soldier he's

1177
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:20,400
following orders but

1178
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:22,960
i think as if you read between the lines

1179
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:23,839
he's

1180
00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:26,880
he is revealing uh the truth and i'd

1181
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:29,119
like to read something that uh

1182
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,160
you know he had posted or

1183
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,040
something he quoted on reddit it says

1184
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,200
he says what if it turns out that at

1185
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:39,920
some point we find an ancestor that is

1186
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,720
really the link between us and our past

1187
00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:44,720
is it possible that the definition of

1188
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,839
human being a human being is constantly

1189
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:49,040
evolving

1190
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:52,000
i would submit to you that may very well

1191
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,240
be the case and that being human isn't

1192
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,880
necessarily being this

1193
00:42:02,230 --> 00:41:59,040
being human is something far more

1194
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,240
profound far more existential something

1195
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:04,720
that is beyond our current comprehension

1196
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,280
and reasoning and then you go he goes on

1197
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:08,960
to say or

1198
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,200
um there's a another page that's um

1199
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:15,359
that's a link to this it says are there

1200
00:42:18,910 --> 00:42:17,520
any hints in the uap literature that

1201
00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:18,920
there is evidence that the

1202
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,040
ultra-terrestrial scenario outlined

1203
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:23,440
above may have some validity

1204
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:26,079
author nick redfirm in his book the nasa

1205
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:28,960
conspiracies asserts that there is

1206
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,599
his interview of an ex-nasa gemini

1207
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:33,680
contractor led to the claim that there

1208
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:35,839
was evidence of a small band of

1209
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,640
individuals who were not alien from some

1210
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:40,880
distant star system at all but

1211
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,000
supposedly represented the last vistages

1212
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:46,560
of a very ancient terrestrial race of

1213
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:49,359
beings that thousands of years ago had

1214
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,240
an advanced and isolated civilization

1215
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:54,400
that was responsible for the legends of

1216
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:57,119
atlantis and similar stories

1217
00:43:02,630 --> 00:42:59,839
but who were forced by circumstances to

1218
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:02,640
retreat into remote sequestered locale

1219
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:05,200
for survival for example the mountains

1220
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:06,720
or the seabed

1221
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:09,680
at present they were primarily concerned

1222
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,000
with nuclear war and degradation of the

1223
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,240
environment and this has led to some

1224
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:16,319
degree of attempting to influence our

1225
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:17,440
culture

1226
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:20,240
however they felt it had to be carried

1227
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:22,720
out under the rules that they were from

1228
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:25,599
distant star systems to protect what

1229
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:28,240
they felt to be their vulnerable and i

1230
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:30,160
think what he's saying is that these

1231
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:32,480
crafts that we're seeing in our skies

1232
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:35,040
are being operated by a civilization

1233
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,319
that used to um occupy the planet but

1234
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,160
because they knew that a meteor was

1235
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,720
coming to impact the earth they moved

1236
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:44,560
into the oceans and into deep earth

1237
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:47,680
caverns and these are the people that we

1238
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:50,720
are seeing today they're the descendants

1239
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:52,960
of these ancient cultures that we you

1240
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,680
know that we now refer to as atlantis

1241
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:57,599
yeah they didn't disappear and what he's

1242
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:59,440
saying is that in order to protect

1243
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:00,720
themselves

1244
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,319
they um

1245
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,640
put out this ruse that all of these

1246
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:06,480
aliens are coming or that yeah these

1247
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:07,920
these aliens are coming from distant

1248
00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:10,560
planets when in reality they're coming

1249
00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:13,520
from our oceans and deeper caverns which

1250
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,000
is why we you know there are so many

1251
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,400
instances of ufos coming in and out of

1252
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,319
our oceans

1253
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:22,960
has anybody else

1254
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:25,760
i thought it was phenomenal um i really

1255
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,240
enjoyed it i think it's more of like a

1256
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,960
eric von danigan zacharias hitch and

1257
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:31,920
meat

1258
00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:34,400
new age ufology

1259
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:37,359
mix up and mash up and i mean i liked it

1260
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:39,280
i think it was good it gives you a lot

1261
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:40,880
of thought-provoking

1262
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:44,079
um you know subjects to pursue

1263
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:46,319
uh what's your thoughts on it what's the

1264
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:48,240
name what's the name of it

1265
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,319
uh his the book that they talk about

1266
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,800
here is um the nasa conspiracies what

1267
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:54,079
are you reading from though what were

1268
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:55,200
you reading from i know the first one

1269
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,560
was little oh it was the second thing

1270
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:58,880
you read from um you know i'm not too

1271
00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:01,119
sure it was um it was

1272
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:02,400
on um

1273
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,520
can you see and then you know when i go

1274
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,079
to this next page that that's what it

1275
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:08,880
came to this is literally mankind and

1276
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:11,119
house paper on ultra terrestrial is very

1277
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:12,160
interesting

1278
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:14,240
i the first of all you read really well

1279
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:15,920
and i was ready just to lay down and

1280
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:17,839
close my eyes and just listen to you

1281
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,240
read the rest of the book um

1282
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:22,240
uh and by the way space oddities thank

1283
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:23,520
you for the ten dollars i really

1284
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:26,000
appreciate that um and the one thing i

1285
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:27,520
like about your theory is it talks about

1286
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:29,119
a comet impact because i do think we're

1287
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:30,800
going to go through something like that

1288
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:31,839
i don't know if it's gonna be in our

1289
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:34,000
lifetimes but i've studied a little bit

1290
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:36,079
cataclysms and i'm not sure of what

1291
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:37,440
we're seeing now if there really is an

1292
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,960
uptick in ufo sightings that it has

1293
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:40,079
something to do with what we're about to

1294
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:43,040
go through cataclysm wise i hope not um

1295
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:45,200
but yeah i would i would uh like to read

1296
00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:46,560
more because all of that was really

1297
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:47,599
interesting

1298
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:49,200
do you think it's possible that the um

1299
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:50,960
the magnetic uh

1300
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:53,119
uh magnetic fields are getting ready to

1301
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,319
flip

1302
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:56,400
yeah um i don't know what that would

1303
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:57,839
look like if that happened the thing

1304
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:00,720
that really worries me is if

1305
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:02,400
mark carlotto who did a lot of work on

1306
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,640
mars and alleged artificial structures

1307
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:07,040
he did a lot of work now recently on

1308
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,000
a physical pole shift where the the pole

1309
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:12,000
has actually switched

1310
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:13,760
many times in the history of this planet

1311
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:15,839
if we if we get a full

1312
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,480
pole ship physical it's going to be

1313
00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:20,400
really difficult for a lot of people if

1314
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:23,839
the actual earth's crust moves above

1315
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,400
the planet like an orange skin above you

1316
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:28,640
know moving on an orange uh some people

1317
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,839
don't think that's possible but

1318
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:31,440
colorado's done some really great work

1319
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:33,040
showing that you know the pole keeps

1320
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,240
switching

1321
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:36,640
um i need to get him on because he's

1322
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,359
he's not in high demand and so yeah i i

1323
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:41,280
don't know about i do think the magnetic

1324
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,400
poles will shift but i don't know what

1325
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:44,319
that looks like as far as any cataclysm

1326
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:47,200
what it would look like on this planet

1327
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:49,599
well you know um i remember hearing

1328
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:53,440
stories about um they found mastodons um

1329
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,680
that were frozen with

1330
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:57,839
food still in their mouths and that

1331
00:47:02,309 --> 00:47:00,240
would go to the physical pole ship

1332
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,319
moving really quick where they just died

1333
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,640
so quickly in a new type of climate but

1334
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:06,400
that's just like so quickly but they

1335
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:09,040
also froze now you know imagine sticking

1336
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,800
a piece of meat in the freezer and how

1337
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,400
long does that take you know that piece

1338
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,400
of meat to freeze imagine taking an

1339
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,319
entire mastodon

1340
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:18,960
a living warm-blooded animal and

1341
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:21,599
instantly bringing its temperature down

1342
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:23,440
you know to a level where it's

1343
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:25,839
freezes while it's still eating the food

1344
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:28,400
so there must have been some type of

1345
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:31,040
quick uh temperature change

1346
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:33,359
yeah and i i think a physical poll ship

1347
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:34,800
could do that but some people don't

1348
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,800
think it's possible but i will make an

1349
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:38,400
effort and i've thought about it before

1350
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:40,000
to have more corollary on the guy's

1351
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,440
really sharp and when you want to talk

1352
00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:43,119
about artificial structures on the moon

1353
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:46,559
or mars mostly mars he's great the guys

1354
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,960
that he's an image image expert

1355
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:50,400
he put some software together i'm not

1356
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,760
sure if it was military software and he

1357
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:53,440
put it on mars and it picks apart

1358
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,880
anything that's not natural and the one

1359
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:56,160
thing that stood out was the face on

1360
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:57,520
mars which a lot of people think is

1361
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:59,280
bogus but in my opinion that whole area

1362
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:00,400
has

1363
00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:04,240
the only way to know for sure is to send

1364
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:06,319
man a manned mission to mars and look at

1365
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:08,400
it up close there's a there's a pyramid

1366
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:09,760
under the water in japan i think it's

1367
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:11,760
yona gandhi that where they had two you

1368
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:13,440
know multiple divers looking at it

1369
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:16,000
underwater one diver you know geologist

1370
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,640
says this is artificial another diver

1371
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,920
i'm not sure if they were both art

1372
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:21,520
geologists but the other diver says no

1373
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:23,359
it's just natural so that's even with an

1374
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:25,200
up close look they couldn't decide but

1375
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,800
mars we have to we have to have an up

1376
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,559
close look to know for sure i do think

1377
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:30,000
there's a connection between mars and

1378
00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:31,599
here that's how i got into this from the

1379
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:33,920
very early days reading watching richard

1380
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:35,920
hogan's united nations presentation

1381
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:37,920
which he's another one danny talks about

1382
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:40,160
somebody telling great stories with with

1383
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:43,280
dan burrish hogan told the best stories

1384
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,640
and a lot of them as i'm hearing them

1385
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:47,040
this is nonsense but it was so good to

1386
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,720
listen to on art bell it was it was a

1387
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:50,640
lot of fun as long as you know you're

1388
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:56,309
man that's bringing back memories you

1389
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:57,599
know what though hogan was right a

1390
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:58,960
couple times i remember once he was

1391
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,640
talking about uh

1392
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:03,520
it was like sabotage on um

1393
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:05,280
one of the nasa things and then it ended

1394
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,520
up like it was sabotaged

1395
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:09,599
yeah mars observer i think

1396
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:11,839
yeah it was crazy he he's when he's

1397
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:13,359
right he's super right there's a couple

1398
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:15,040
other times he was right most of the

1399
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:17,520
other times 98 of the time he was super

1400
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,760
super wrong and then i guess like they

1401
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:21,920
just like cut him off huh they don't let

1402
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:24,319
him come on anymore but he had a big

1403
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:25,520
argument he had a big argument with

1404
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,359
george nori where he said

1405
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,440
if i do this you have to give me a whole

1406
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:31,599
show to host by my own and i forget what

1407
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:33,200
the but what he had to do but it

1408
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:35,920
happened and nori turned him down and it

1409
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:37,680
was the end of the relationship so he

1410
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:39,280
did his own show which he still does he

1411
00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:40,720
has a very small audience from what i

1412
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,880
know but i think he was on like a couple

1413
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,640
of months months ago with nori so that

1414
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:46,079
was good to see but on our belly he was

1415
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:47,680
on all the time i was listening for five

1416
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:50,079
hours the transcripts were online

1417
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,480
between his mars stuff i saw him lecture

1418
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:54,079
multiple times i saw him lecture i was

1419
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:55,920
in tampa i drove across the state to see

1420
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,640
him at the brevard community community

1421
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,319
college and he talked about the stuff

1422
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:02,319
that diana pasulka talks about how nasa

1423
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:04,480
was was taking launches and they were

1424
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,640
seemed to be deciding when to launch

1425
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:08,800
based on certain star angles it was all

1426
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:11,280
astronomy related um dedicated to the

1427
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,960
god apollo and

1428
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:15,200
certain angles and it was really great i

1429
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:16,480
had brought my

1430
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,559
my ex-wife with me and i had my

1431
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:20,319
mother-in-law and my aunt and

1432
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,319
i think it was like five hours and they

1433
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:24,480
were falling asleep and i was like wide

1434
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:26,160
awake i was having so much fun and then

1435
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:27,440
i had to drive back across the state

1436
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:29,839
afterwards but i loved it yeah so um but

1437
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:31,280
there are people who are dangerous like

1438
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:33,040
ed dames would make predictions with

1439
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:34,720
remote viewing and i would get when i

1440
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:36,160
did my newsletter at the time people

1441
00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:38,079
would write me and say i'm leaving the

1442
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,839
country i'm going to a safe spot because

1443
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,359
of what ed dame said i'm like please

1444
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,119
don't do anything based on what ed dame

1445
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:45,359
said there's no there's no solar flare

1446
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,559
that's going to take out the entire

1447
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:48,400
planet please don't worry about it nope

1448
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:50,240
sorry i already made my decision sorry

1449
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:51,920
even if it wasn't for dame i'm going so

1450
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:52,960
there is there was definitely some

1451
00:50:56,549 --> 00:50:54,880
danger to that stuff too and i i asked

1452
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,559
artbell about it on facebook before he

1453
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:58,160
died but he never he never wanted to

1454
00:51:01,750 --> 00:51:00,319
address it you know who damned me like

1455
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:01,760
six months ago and i don't even remember

1456
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:03,680
what he said was uh

1457
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:05,920
louis tourie remember him from uh yeah

1458
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:08,559
he was an astra strong astrologer yeah

1459
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,160
he dm'd me i don't remember why he was

1460
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:12,319
crazy i was like man i grew up listening

1461
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:13,680
to you

1462
00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:15,760
he was on jeff rentz all the time he was

1463
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,359
like the guy he was like the resident

1464
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:19,440
astrologer who did i think it was vedic

1465
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:22,640
vedic astronomy astrology i'm not sure

1466
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:23,839
man these are good memories i'm going to

1467
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:26,880
start listening to nori again

1468
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:29,440
i i don't like i can't listen to nora i

1469
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:32,240
only i'm only listening to nap nothing

1470
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:33,599
there are other people i listen to but

1471
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:35,200
just not george nori just because i

1472
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:36,640
don't want to insult him i just don't

1473
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,960
listen

1474
00:51:41,670 --> 00:51:40,160
um

1475
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:41,680
jessica's not here i do want to start

1476
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:47,510
i found a photo of um some tubes glass

1477
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:50,000
tooth that they supposedly found on mars

1478
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,800
yeah if you can um how do i show it to

1479
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:54,640
you

1480
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:55,010
um

1481
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:56,480
[Music]

1482
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:58,240
there you go and i've seen the glass

1483
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:59,920
i've seen those before and it's once

1484
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:01,599
again it's you talk to some people and

1485
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:03,839
they're like oh those are artificial

1486
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:05,440
some sort of plumbing and then somebody

1487
00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:06,880
else is like nope it's just natural it's

1488
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:08,559
just the way the wind is and erosion so

1489
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:10,640
it's impossible to know unless we go

1490
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:11,440
there

1491
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:13,119
it's the only way to know and i've seen

1492
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:15,040
that stuff it's it's it's pretty old the

1493
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:16,960
pictures

1494
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:19,040
there was a former nasa um

1495
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:20,640
scientist so he was like the director of

1496
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:23,920
nasa i can't remember his name but um he

1497
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:26,319
gave a presentation where he showed like

1498
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:29,520
this giant um question mark that was uh

1499
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:32,640
carved out of mars but yeah

1500
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:34,960
he definitely asserts that um there was

1501
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:37,680
a civilization on mars you know that

1502
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:39,680
there's a lot of evidence up there and

1503
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:41,440
and i think there was something else had

1504
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:43,280
to do with um

1505
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:45,520
something in the atmosphere that is only

1506
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,800
present

1507
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:48,240
uh

1508
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,760
after a nuclear nuclear explosion

1509
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:53,119
i don't i don't remember what material

1510
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:54,480
it is but there's some type of material

1511
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:57,359
that you know that's created after john

1512
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:59,440
brandenburg john brandenburg was the

1513
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:00,880
scientist who had the theory that there

1514
00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:03,520
was a nuclear war on mars i think he's

1515
00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:05,280
dead now i'm not sure

1516
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:07,599
um yeah that's another interesting

1517
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:08,400
uh

1518
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:10,000
theory where he believes he had the

1519
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:11,680
evidence to back it up the other theory

1520
00:53:15,910 --> 00:53:14,079
is based on remote viewing so it's not

1521
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:15,920
science but joe mcmonicle his remote

1522
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:17,760
viewing

1523
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,520
showed that it was a comet that ripped

1524
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:21,760
apart the atmosphere and they knew it

1525
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:23,520
was coming and some of them got away and

1526
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,880
came here

1527
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,480
for their new life and that's why we

1528
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:28,079
also have pyramids because if you look

1529
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,440
at some of the mars stuff it looks like

1530
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:31,359
pyramids buried under sand for hundreds

1531
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:32,960
of thousands of years

1532
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:34,960
highly eroded but like i said we need to

1533
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:35,920
go there

1534
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:37,599
to know for sure i do think there's a

1535
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:39,200
connection um

1536
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:40,960
there's some really great books on mars

1537
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:42,880
grant hamcock has a great book on mars i

1538
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:44,160
forget what it's called it might just be

1539
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:46,400
mars yeah my feeling is people who

1540
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:48,160
sunburn aren't originally are they ants

1541
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:49,599
are the descendants of people who didn't

1542
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,599
come from this planet

1543
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,960
because i've heard that theory too and

1544
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:54,640
people like might mock you for that but

1545
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:56,000
it's like it doesn't seem like we belong

1546
00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:57,440
it's like we can't be out in the sun

1547
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:58,640
it's like

1548
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,559
yeah yeah how come europeans are never

1549
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:02,400
considered indigenous

1550
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:03,200
right

1551
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:05,040
and if you look at hunter gatherers all

1552
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:06,559
hunter-gatherer societies all have

1553
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:09,440
melanin and you know you have these

1554
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:12,079
um you have these greeks who's who just

1555
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:14,720
um appeared in the mediterranean and

1556
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:16,480
started building these amazing

1557
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,839
structures

1558
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:19,440
that um you know there's no way

1559
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,280
hunter-gatherers just woke up one day

1560
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:23,119
and decided to build you know like

1561
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:25,040
greece and

1562
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,160
the way they were building they were

1563
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:28,720
using um sacred geometry you know they

1564
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:30,559
were using the golden ratio they were

1565
00:54:34,069 --> 00:54:32,480
using advanced math you know advanced

1566
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:34,079
architectural techniques i mean look at

1567
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,119
the um

1568
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:36,960
uh the temple of bacchus or the temple

1569
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:39,920
of jupiter you know um in

1570
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:41,760
balbic lebanon right those are some of

1571
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:44,240
the first structures ever built on

1572
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:46,880
planet earth you cannot tell me you know

1573
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:49,280
that uh some africans you know

1574
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:51,359
rolled over in some boats into lebanon

1575
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,359
and you know develop the culture that

1576
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,440
was able to cut blocks of stone that are

1577
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:57,119
1200 tons

1578
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,920
you know and build things like that

1579
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,920
they definitely in my opinion had some

1580
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:03,599
knowledge of technology it's like it's

1581
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:06,400
like um in this country

1582
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,720
it's near homestead florida it's called

1583
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:10,319
the coral castle if anybody gets a

1584
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:13,359
chance to go um i've been there

1585
00:55:16,630 --> 00:55:15,200
and nobody knows how he did it it was

1586
00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:16,640
just him in one helper and he did all

1587
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:18,160
his work at night and some of the blocks

1588
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:22,000
were huge blocks of coral and he said

1589
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:23,520
he knew the secret of the egyptian

1590
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:25,040
pyramid builders and he took that secret

1591
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:26,880
to him with him to his death so nobody

1592
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:30,079
knows i mean there's a giant door there

1593
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:31,280
was this giant door that you would just

1594
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:33,440
push it was perfectly balanced when it

1595
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:35,520
broke they had to bring in like this

1596
00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:37,839
giant crane just to fix it and like how

1597
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:39,599
the hell would he do this on his own

1598
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:41,359
nobody knows yeah i don't think he's

1599
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:43,040
from this planet dude i think you know i

1600
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:44,960
think um a lot of ancient cultures

1601
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:46,720
arrived here from other planets because

1602
00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:48,559
like how do you explain

1603
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:50,240
you know like again like the greek or

1604
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:52,400
like the myceans or the um

1605
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:55,119
the minoans you know they their cultures

1606
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:58,000
were intact they were highly advanced

1607
00:56:02,789 --> 00:55:59,760
and there's no evidence in the

1608
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:02,799
archaeological records of uh culture you

1609
00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:03,839
know um

1610
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:06,079
developing up to a point where they were

1611
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:07,680
able to build the type of structures

1612
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:09,520
that they were building so you know i i

1613
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:12,079
assert that you know that culture was

1614
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:16,240
brought intact from another planet

1615
00:56:19,589 --> 00:56:17,920
bart i thank you for everything tonight

1616
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:19,599
i have more people waiting that i didn't

1617
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:20,720
realize we're waiting so i'm going to

1618
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:23,359
let you go but

1619
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,799
thank you for sharing everything and

1620
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:26,319
definitely come back next time

1621
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,240
definitely we'll do it take care see ya

1622
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:32,799
so hey hey you have to unmute yourself

1623
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:34,559
and john i do see you down there i will

1624
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:37,040
bring you in in a little bit

1625
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:38,880
hey if you can hear me unmute yourself

1626
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:40,480
and we can hear from you jess you can

1627
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:42,000
unmute too i didn't realize how long you

1628
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:43,680
had been there it was there was more

1629
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:46,400
yeah sorry i lost connectivity um but

1630
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:49,280
yeah like for dawn to jump in eventually

1631
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:51,200
and just jumping back into what you guys

1632
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:53,119
were talking about that case

1633
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:55,200
um the guy said that he come up with

1634
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:57,119
some type of technology to be able to

1635
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:58,960
levitate stones

1636
00:57:01,589 --> 00:57:00,240
um

1637
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:01,599
i don't know if

1638
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:03,599
it was with some type of sonar

1639
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:06,559
technology or whatever it was or it had

1640
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:08,960
something it was a it was an amazing

1641
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:10,559
story and i don't think it's ever been

1642
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:14,240
explained so i do enjoy that side of it

1643
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,760
i'm actually going to go you can uh let

1644
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:17,760
more people in thanks for having me guys

1645
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:20,160
uh i'd stay longer i just got to wake up

1646
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:21,920
super early because this day

1647
00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:24,240
i hate so much that i'm quitting

1648
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:26,799
thanks danny yeah man yeah i wish i

1649
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:28,079
could i'm gonna have to come back for

1650
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:29,119
the uh

1651
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:30,319
replay because i want to hear what you

1652
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:31,599
guys say about the how put off paper

1653
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:33,760
because that's a big deal yeah danny i

1654
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:35,200
never had a chance to talk to you before

1655
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,200
maybe one day in the future yeah dude

1656
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:39,119
for sure all right bye guys take care

1657
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:40,400
danny have a good night good luck with

1658
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,520
the job thank you

1659
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:45,839
how's it going john

1660
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,520
hanging in there man how you doing joe

1661
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:49,200
i'm doing good what do you think about

1662
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:50,400
what we've been talking about anything

1663
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:52,480
else what's up john

1664
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:55,119
jessica we finally talk how are you

1665
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:56,960
i'm doing great i can't wait to hear

1666
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:58,799
what you got to say

1667
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,480
yeah there's i don't even know where to

1668
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:02,640
begin there's not enough time in one

1669
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:04,160
night to talk about all of it you just

1670
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,240
got to pick and choose there's too much

1671
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:08,880
to discuss um i read i read what hal put

1672
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:10,480
off wrote that was that was really

1673
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:11,920
interesting what he wrote there's a lot

1674
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:12,960
of good points there's so many

1675
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:15,119
possibilities i i have a good feeling it

1676
00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:17,440
could be a combination like you said but

1677
00:58:20,829 --> 00:58:19,280
not just survivors of the great

1678
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,839
cataclysm that

1679
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:22,480
supposedly

1680
00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:23,760
most of them went extinct twelve

1681
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:25,119
thousand nine hundred years ago some of

1682
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:26,880
them survived you know the ancient

1683
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:28,400
egyptian story that

1684
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:31,359
uh hermes uh one of them his name was

1685
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:33,520
hermes he was a giant-sized being that

1686
00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:35,760
brought the j tablets and helped restart

1687
00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:37,599
civilization after there was a brief

1688
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:39,920
dark ages and then he helped restart you

1689
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:40,720
know there could have been some

1690
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:42,480
survivors that have been keeping tabs on

1691
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:43,359
us and

1692
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:44,400
um

1693
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:45,760
maybe went to live somewhere else and

1694
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:47,680
have been coming back could be also

1695
00:58:50,710 --> 00:58:49,359
extraterrestrials and interdimensionals

1696
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:50,720
also

1697
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:52,000
i wanted to know what you guys think

1698
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:53,280
though do you think there would be a lot

1699
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:54,880
more public panic

1700
00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:55,760
if

1701
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:58,240
it was aliens from another planet or do

1702
00:59:02,470 --> 00:59:00,559
you think interdimensionals or

1703
00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:02,480
a cousin of ours is a lot taller and

1704
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:03,440
bigger

1705
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:05,599
stronger and smarter and older than ours

1706
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:07,200
would be a lot more shocking and cause

1707
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:09,359
more public panic than just a tiny

1708
00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:10,960
little four foot tall

1709
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:13,839
grey alien or you know a mantid or a

1710
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:15,520
reptilian which one do you think would

1711
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,240
possibly cause more public panic go

1712
00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:20,319
ahead jess

1713
00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:21,680
well

1714
00:59:25,910 --> 00:59:22,480
for

1715
00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:25,920
the longest time under my profile i had

1716
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:27,760
extraterrestrial

1717
00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:29,520
interdimensional

1718
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:30,799
and

1719
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:32,880
just something else like

1720
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:35,119
we have no idea

1721
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:36,240
what they're

1722
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:38,799
what they are and i

1723
00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:39,839
if i had

1724
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:44,630
i would say that

1725
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:47,280
what people are experiencing

1726
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:49,839
is possibly a combination

1727
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:50,640
of

1728
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:51,920
multiple

1729
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,640
different phenomena that we just have

1730
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,119
yet to understand we can't rule out

1731
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:59,359
extraterrestrials from another planet

1732
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:01,760
that have traveled across the universe

1733
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,480
to get here we can't rule out an

1734
01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:06,319
interdimensional type

1735
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:07,440
entity

1736
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:10,880
and we can't rule out ultra-terrestrials

1737
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:13,359
that have been here been living on this

1738
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:15,520
planet and have evolved

1739
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:16,559
so

1740
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:18,960
that may be part of the confusion

1741
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:21,680
um i don't think it matters

1742
01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:23,040
which one

1743
01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:26,480
comes up first there's going to be

1744
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:28,480
some type of reaction to it

1745
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:30,960
i think most of the reaction is going to

1746
01:00:35,829 --> 01:00:34,400
be disbelief at first i think even if

1747
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:35,839
disclosure happens tomorrow the

1748
01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:37,680
government comes out and say hey there's

1749
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:39,119
aliens

1750
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:40,480
i think

1751
01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:42,880
most of the world is going to react in

1752
01:00:45,349 --> 01:00:44,240
disbelief

1753
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:45,359
um right

1754
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:47,680
once it sets in i think you're going to

1755
01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:48,720
have

1756
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:50,960
different religious sectors like coming

1757
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:54,240
out and saying oh this is

1758
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:55,359
our

1759
01:00:59,829 --> 01:00:57,119
god coming back

1760
01:01:04,150 --> 01:00:59,839
or this is a demon or this is a

1761
01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:04,160
malevolent presence uh i think it's

1762
01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:06,799
going to take time and unfortunately i

1763
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,319
don't think

1764
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:10,720
we're going to see it in our lifetime

1765
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:13,119
i think even if tomorrow it comes out i

1766
01:01:17,109 --> 01:01:14,720
think it's going to take a long time for

1767
01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:17,119
people to actually absorb

1768
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:19,040
this

1769
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:21,599
new information that's presented to the

1770
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,559
world

1771
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:24,480
yeah i mean this has been these these

1772
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:26,400
topics have been talked about um i've

1773
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:28,079
talked about on other on other channels

1774
01:01:32,630 --> 01:01:29,920
on video discussions a lot it's you can

1775
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:32,640
go into it for hours i mean i i have a

1776
01:01:36,549 --> 01:01:34,079
gut feeling too it's probably a

1777
01:01:38,230 --> 01:01:36,559
combination of all of it but um these

1778
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:38,240
ancient civilizations if you look at

1779
01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:39,920
what the previous guy was saying he's

1780
01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:41,599
correct i mean i've talked about it on a

1781
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:43,359
lot of other channels too these

1782
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:45,200
these blocks that are 1200 tons some of

1783
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:47,200
them and they found in siberia over 3

1784
01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:50,240
000 tons and saudi arabia and yemen even

1785
01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:51,680
larger

1786
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:53,359
and also in china some of them are over

1787
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:56,160
100 000 tons each whoever they were they

1788
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:58,880
had the capability of taking granite

1789
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:01,200
diorite combination pink granite which

1790
01:02:05,190 --> 01:02:03,280
is even harder sometimes even corundum

1791
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:05,200
which is almost as hard as a diamond all

1792
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:06,960
these stones are getting close to

1793
01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:09,119
diamond level hardness and they have the

1794
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:10,799
capability of cutting them up as if

1795
01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:12,880
they're just soft bread like with some

1796
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:14,720
kind of high-tech laser 3d cutting

1797
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:16,640
machine that was maybe run by some

1798
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:18,880
advanced computer system but we we don't

1799
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:20,400
have helicopters or airplanes that can

1800
01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:22,640
do that today so wherever they were

1801
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:24,400
right before the great flood they were

1802
01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:26,000
already ahead of us as far as

1803
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:28,000
construction engineering and uh that

1804
01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:29,760
kind of technology so if they've had

1805
01:02:33,829 --> 01:02:31,839
another 12 900 years to develop their

1806
01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:33,839
technology even further that would kind

1807
01:02:37,990 --> 01:02:35,119
of make sense that by now they would

1808
01:02:39,829 --> 01:02:38,000
have anti-gravity uh zero point energy

1809
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:39,839
and become interdimensional and have

1810
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:42,960
colonies on other planets and um if you

1811
01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:44,559
i don't know if joe you ever want to

1812
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:46,400
have brian forester on i follow his

1813
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:48,400
channel he's been studying following the

1814
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:51,119
dna results of these elongated skull

1815
01:02:56,069 --> 01:02:54,160
tall giant-sized red-haired and uh

1816
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:56,079
blond-haired beings that

1817
01:03:00,230 --> 01:02:58,160
apparently were the ones they were the

1818
01:03:02,230 --> 01:03:00,240
ancestors of the of the even bigger

1819
01:03:03,750 --> 01:03:02,240
beings that built all this tens of

1820
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:03,760
thousands of years ago

1821
01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:04,559
so

1822
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:06,400
maybe that's true maybe

1823
01:03:10,789 --> 01:03:08,160
maybe they came from other planets they

1824
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:10,799
were giant elf looking tall platinum

1825
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:13,200
blonde haired red hair with huge almond

1826
01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:14,880
shaped blue eyes and

1827
01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:16,640
they came here with technology and they

1828
01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:18,799
set up a colony here who knows we need

1829
01:03:21,430 --> 01:03:20,559
answers but i don't think i agree with

1830
01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:21,440
uh

1831
01:03:23,589 --> 01:03:22,640
jessica i don't think the government's

1832
01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:23,599
ever gonna

1833
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:25,920
admit full disclosure i don't think real

1834
01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:28,079
true disclosure is ever gonna happen for

1835
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:29,359
a lottery

1836
01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:31,520
not yet i mean look at how long this is

1837
01:03:36,470 --> 01:03:34,000
taking this is going at a snell's pace

1838
01:03:37,589 --> 01:03:36,480
at the moment and look at my grandfather

1839
01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:37,599
they're trying to put the toothpaste

1840
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:39,119
back in the tube now like richard dolan

1841
01:03:43,270 --> 01:03:41,359
said they're they've been dialing it way

1842
01:03:45,109 --> 01:03:43,280
back i talked about this with alien girl

1843
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:45,119
a couple nights ago with gary voorhees

1844
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:47,440
uh on the video panel they they're

1845
01:03:51,430 --> 01:03:49,200
trying to put the toothpaste back in the

1846
01:03:53,829 --> 01:03:51,440
tube now you remember on small podcast

1847
01:03:56,069 --> 01:03:53,839
christopher mellon was talking about 46

1848
01:03:57,670 --> 01:03:56,079
000 miles per hour with 90 degree turns

1849
01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:57,680
five observables being able to

1850
01:04:02,789 --> 01:04:00,480
disassemble sensors remotely slide nine

1851
01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:02,799
stuff and stuff that's so far beyond

1852
01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:04,319
human technology that is laughable and

1853
01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:06,720
then recently he's dialed it way back to

1854
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:08,720
just talking about adversarial drones

1855
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:10,880
and 600 mile per hour drones which is

1856
01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:12,480
well within the capabilities of human

1857
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:15,119
technology so somebody is warning

1858
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:18,079
somebody to dial this way back and put

1859
01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:19,920
it back in the tube again for another 75

1860
01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:21,680
years it's very disappointing well

1861
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:23,039
there's something that i would like to

1862
01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:24,000
say

1863
01:04:26,789 --> 01:04:25,920
real quick joe i promise i'll be quick

1864
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:26,799
um

1865
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:28,079
there's something i'd like to say about

1866
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:30,640
the five observables that luis elizondo

1867
01:04:34,069 --> 01:04:31,920
has put out

1868
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:34,079
okay so as

1869
01:04:39,589 --> 01:04:37,200
technology develops we're gonna catch up

1870
01:04:43,270 --> 01:04:39,599
to those five observables if we don't

1871
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:43,280
have disclosure before that happens

1872
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:45,039
it's going to be complete and utter

1873
01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:46,559
chaos everything is going to be

1874
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:48,799
questioned and we're almost we're at the

1875
01:04:53,589 --> 01:04:50,880
precipice of a jumping off point to

1876
01:04:56,069 --> 01:04:53,599
where we cannot discern right now

1877
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:56,079
what's in our sky whether it's drones or

1878
01:05:00,309 --> 01:04:58,319
hypersonic vehicles or some other

1879
01:05:02,470 --> 01:05:00,319
man-made technology if this was a

1880
01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:02,480
discussion if we had this internet

1881
01:05:07,029 --> 01:05:04,079
technology the way that we're speaking

1882
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:07,039
right now a hundred years ago without

1883
01:05:12,309 --> 01:05:10,000
the aviation aspect of it it would be

1884
01:05:13,990 --> 01:05:12,319
much easier than it is right now but

1885
01:05:16,390 --> 01:05:14,000
because we have progressed and because

1886
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:16,400
we have advanced and because we continue

1887
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,760
to advance

1888
01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:19,359
uh it's going to continue to get more

1889
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:20,960
and more difficult so if they're going

1890
01:05:25,349 --> 01:05:23,119
to put something out they need to put it

1891
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:25,359
out now they need to put it out with

1892
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:28,240
proof or it doesn't matter if something

1893
01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:30,160
lands on the white house lawn at this

1894
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:32,079
point moment people are still going to

1895
01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:34,319
question was that us

1896
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:37,280
because we have that technology

1897
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:39,760
yeah and i i i don't know and i and i've

1898
01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:41,359
you know recently

1899
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:43,280
i get flack from people when i imagine

1900
01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:45,760
the possibility that i think we may have

1901
01:05:49,270 --> 01:05:47,680
cracked gravity just saying that we may

1902
01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:49,280
have cracked gravity gets so much

1903
01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:51,520
negative feedback um and it doesn't mean

1904
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,640
and they're like well what do you mean

1905
01:05:55,829 --> 01:05:54,480
and so when this sighting happened in

1906
01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:55,839
the 40s you think that was us and i'm

1907
01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:57,440
like no i never said there's not

1908
01:06:01,349 --> 01:05:59,039
something anomalous we have that too but

1909
01:06:03,510 --> 01:06:01,359
i think we may have cracked gravity and

1910
01:06:05,109 --> 01:06:03,520
if people look on my twitter feed and

1911
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:05,119
you search for nick cook who wrote the

1912
01:06:09,029 --> 01:06:07,440
book hunt for zero point he did some

1913
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:09,039
digging and found some interesting

1914
01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:11,520
things no no proof that we have cracked

1915
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:13,520
gravity but in his gut he thinks we may

1916
01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:15,280
have and it may be buried

1917
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:16,960
in some black program i don't know if

1918
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:18,559
that's true but you know i interviewed

1919
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:20,240
will miller who was part of the wilson

1920
01:06:23,829 --> 01:06:22,400
davis documents i met him back in 2007

1921
01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:23,839
went to his house

1922
01:06:26,789 --> 01:06:25,119
interviewed him a couple of years ago

1923
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:26,799
for wilson davis and he says you know he

1924
01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:28,480
believes we have a craft operational

1925
01:06:32,069 --> 01:06:30,319
that can go anyplace any time in the

1926
01:06:33,670 --> 01:06:32,079
universe so i don't know and then you

1927
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:33,680
have eric davis who says the crash

1928
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:35,839
retrieval program shut down in 1989

1929
01:06:38,950 --> 01:06:37,680
because we failed to make any progress

1930
01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:38,960
maybe there's another program maybe

1931
01:06:41,829 --> 01:06:40,319
that's true we have another program that

1932
01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:41,839
broke through on something else on

1933
01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:44,160
triangular craft i have no idea we have

1934
01:06:47,430 --> 01:06:46,559
no details whatsoever um back to your

1935
01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:47,440
question

1936
01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:48,240
do you

1937
01:06:50,470 --> 01:06:49,359
let me just finish one question all

1938
01:06:51,430 --> 01:06:50,480
right go ahead before i change the

1939
01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:51,440
subject

1940
01:06:54,069 --> 01:06:52,480
i was going to say this is something

1941
01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:54,079
that you and i have gone back and forth

1942
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:56,720
on several occasions

1943
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:57,760
we have

1944
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:00,480
we don't have to have cracked gravity

1945
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:03,119
okay if you look at the technology that

1946
01:07:09,270 --> 01:07:04,880
we have been studying

1947
01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:09,280
since the 40s since the 50s like we

1948
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:11,920
have the capability at this moment to

1949
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:14,720
have advanced nuclear propulsion we have

1950
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:17,599
something that could possibly mimic

1951
01:07:22,069 --> 01:07:19,839
anti-gravity technology

1952
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:22,079
we already have things that can do

1953
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:24,000
hypersonic speeds we have things that

1954
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:27,280
can do 90 degree angles we have all of

1955
01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:31,589
in our

1956
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:34,160
arsenal of technology that we have and i

1957
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:35,920
know people disagree with it but it went

1958
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:37,680
into the private sector even after it

1959
01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:40,880
was banned it never stopped technology

1960
01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:44,319
this stuff never stopped it was

1961
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:47,119
the government funding was taken from a

1962
01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:49,680
public eye it was put into

1963
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:52,000
black budget programs that's what a lot

1964
01:07:55,910 --> 01:07:53,760
of people don't understand

1965
01:07:58,549 --> 01:07:55,920
we have this ability already so it's

1966
01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:58,559
going to be very very hard to determine

1967
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:01,599
what's ours with alien at this point

1968
01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:02,880
well if you if you listen to the

1969
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:05,039
insiders they say that the only way to

1970
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:07,599
tell right now is um

1971
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:10,000
that the one they say that we've cracked

1972
01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:11,520
it but it's just a primitive version of

1973
01:08:16,229 --> 01:08:13,760
the non-human original version that they

1974
01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:16,239
originally found in the 1930s and 40s

1975
01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:18,159
and ours still has bolts and rivets on

1976
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:20,000
it whereas the non-human craft is

1977
01:08:24,789 --> 01:08:22,480
completely 3d printed as one entire

1978
01:08:26,709 --> 01:08:24,799
piece with no right angles it's all

1979
01:08:29,430 --> 01:08:26,719
curved and it looks like it was created

1980
01:08:32,470 --> 01:08:29,440
a super high-tech atomic level 3d

1981
01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:32,480
printer in in orbit that's so far beyond

1982
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:34,560
our 3d printing technology some kind of

1983
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,799
interdimensional 3d printer that that's

1984
01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:38,719
how you can tell because it can go

1985
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:40,719
underwater outer space it can go

1986
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:42,560
hundreds of thousands of miles per hour

1987
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:44,799
and it's just similar to what was

1988
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:46,319
reverse engineered except just way

1989
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:48,319
beyond that if you listen to what the

1990
01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:49,679
insider said that's what they're saying

1991
01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:00,309
if you go back and look at the tic tac

1992
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:03,920
the tic tac described by um

1993
01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:04,960
braver

1994
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:07,440
it was said to have a

1995
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:09,679
seal or a

1996
01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:12,719
some type of line or a rivet or

1997
01:09:16,709 --> 01:09:14,560
an invention

1998
01:09:18,309 --> 01:09:16,719
across like like across the middle or

1999
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:18,319
cut it in half but my trip was it was

2000
01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:20,319
horizontal or vertical there was a line

2001
01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:22,000
there and you have legs which always

2002
01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:24,000
made me think human okay

2003
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:26,719
so you've got legs which could be some

2004
01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:29,279
type of you know wing or propulsion

2005
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:31,199
something something to

2006
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:34,159
make it more aerodynamic you have those

2007
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:35,440
things that are very human

2008
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:38,080
characteristics okay that's why i'm on

2009
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:40,239
the fence with the tic tac i have always

2010
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:41,520
held the tic tac in the back is

2011
01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:42,960
something that's never been explained to

2012
01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:45,679
this day i say it's not been yet cracked

2013
01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:48,719
even though i'm i retweeted what's his

2014
01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:50,960
face saying hey it was hypersonic or

2015
01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:53,040
look at this possibility i still don't

2016
01:09:57,669 --> 01:09:55,280
have my mind made up but i still think

2017
01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:57,679
that it's awesome since because nobody

2018
01:10:01,110 --> 01:09:59,600
has an answer for it we should

2019
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:01,120
potentially look at those types of

2020
01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:03,920
things well we should and don't and

2021
01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:05,199
don't forget the australia i believe it

2022
01:10:09,270 --> 01:10:07,199
was australian military pilot that

2023
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:09,280
claims the way he's describing what he

2024
01:10:13,990 --> 01:10:11,920
saw in 1931 was almost exactly like a

2025
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:14,000
tic-tac the color the shape everything

2026
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:15,920
so we have to take their testimony into

2027
01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:17,920
consideration and until it's proven that

2028
01:10:22,229 --> 01:10:20,320
they're definitely lying then we gotta

2029
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:22,239
at least at least give them the benefit

2030
01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:23,600
of doubt that they're they might very

2031
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:24,960
well be telling the truth and that would

2032
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,719
be very telling if somebody saw a tic

2033
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:29,040
tac in 1931

2034
01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:31,679
man and as far as theories i'm to me the

2035
01:10:36,390 --> 01:10:34,320
only serious theories are it's our

2036
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,400
technology somehow it was where you have

2037
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:38,400
advanced black tech not black technology

2038
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:40,320
or it's other i don't think it's a

2039
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:42,400
hypersonic missile the evidence does not

2040
01:10:46,630 --> 01:10:44,880
fit that whatsoever it's not the x43

2041
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,640
test it doesn't even come close to

2042
01:10:49,990 --> 01:10:48,000
fitting the evidence so if somebody

2043
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:50,000
wants okay the only reason i said that

2044
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:51,280
joe and i know you're pointing that at

2045
01:10:55,910 --> 01:10:53,280
me is because it was going on at the

2046
01:10:59,110 --> 01:10:55,920
exact same time as the tic tac and i

2047
01:11:02,149 --> 01:10:59,120
only asked if the guys knew that that

2048
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:02,159
test was going on nasa did that test do

2049
01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:03,679
the pilots who've come out have they

2050
01:11:07,750 --> 01:11:05,840
even were they aware of that test was

2051
01:11:09,750 --> 01:11:07,760
going on at the same time

2052
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:09,760
that's the only thing that i asked no

2053
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:11,760
but you actually have made you tried to

2054
01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:13,600
make the argument that that actually was

2055
01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:15,920
the tic tac and i said no the the the

2056
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:18,480
hypersonic not the hypersonic the x-43 i

2057
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:20,560
think it was launched at 40 000 feet and

2058
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:22,719
went up to 100 000 feet i mean favorite

2059
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:25,040
dietrich slate and the other guy saw it

2060
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:26,400
at the water but we don't have to argue

2061
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:28,800
it it's it's it's definitely something

2062
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:30,480
i've considered when i wrote a couple of

2063
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:32,400
articles way back when i said you know

2064
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:33,760
maybe it's like how the hell would they

2065
01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:35,600
know so fast to get people on board to

2066
01:11:39,350 --> 01:11:37,600
grab that data did they know it was our

2067
01:11:41,189 --> 01:11:39,360
test or were they following the objects

2068
01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:41,199
for you know it was like 10 days that

2069
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:43,679
stuff had been seen on the on the nimitz

2070
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:45,760
and so they knew it was out there but

2071
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:47,360
i'm open to it but did they did they

2072
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:49,280
know that was out there has that ever

2073
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:51,120
been rated

2074
01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:53,600
they were tracking hundreds not

2075
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:56,239
um whatever they were on radar at a at a

2076
01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:57,280
pretty high

2077
01:12:01,830 --> 01:11:59,679
altitude which was very odd those you

2078
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:01,840
don't normally see very slow moving

2079
01:12:05,189 --> 01:12:04,000
objects so that's when kevin day said we

2080
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:05,199
should probably check it out because it

2081
01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:06,960
might interfere with some of our

2082
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:08,800
operations and our training and that's

2083
01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:10,560
when they went out and and they engaged

2084
01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:13,040
the tic tac and then chad underwood got

2085
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:15,280
it on flear and he said it was you know

2086
01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:17,199
it's performing he didn't say any

2087
01:12:22,709 --> 01:12:19,280
gravity but he said you know defying

2088
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:22,719
physics when he was following it so

2089
01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:24,000
but these people who are saying these

2090
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:25,840
things are defined physics are they

2091
01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:28,320
actually do we actually have proof that

2092
01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:30,560
any of this has defied physics

2093
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:32,000
no we don't have proof of any of it we

2094
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:33,360
don't have proof we have a video and we

2095
01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:35,040
have the pilots we have alex dietrich

2096
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:36,000
talking about it making these

2097
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:38,080
nonsensical turns but no we don't have

2098
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:40,000
proof of absolutely anything so it's

2099
01:12:45,430 --> 01:12:40,800
like

2100
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:45,440
comments when i brought something up hey

2101
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:47,679
let's discuss this that's one of those

2102
01:12:51,750 --> 01:12:49,440
things like people are so defensive over

2103
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:51,760
this so yeah people are so like wanted

2104
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:53,440
to be aliens it's like nobody's looking

2105
01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:55,760
at it from all angle i don't think that

2106
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:57,440
basically well maybe some people maybe

2107
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:58,640
but let me just get back to you said

2108
01:13:03,350 --> 01:13:01,199
what what do you think is more scary or

2109
01:13:05,910 --> 01:13:03,360
like unacceptable to see

2110
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:05,920
the human beings is it e.t or our

2111
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:07,520
relatives or something interdimensional

2112
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:08,880
and something that george knapp has said

2113
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:11,360
he goes he goes can can can we handle

2114
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:12,800
the truth he goes it depends on what the

2115
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:14,560
truth is if it turns out that it's

2116
01:13:19,669 --> 01:13:17,520
something that hangs out in the the mag

2117
01:13:21,430 --> 01:13:19,679
not the mag if something that hangs out

2118
01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:21,440
in the electromagnetic spectrum that we

2119
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:23,040
can't see and it's around us all the

2120
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:24,480
time and they can see us and they can

2121
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:25,920
watch us taking a shower or something

2122
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:28,080
like that you know no people aren't

2123
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:29,280
gonna be able to handle that how would

2124
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:30,880
you even get that story out and then you

2125
01:13:34,229 --> 01:13:32,159
have the whole hitchhiker alleged

2126
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:34,239
hitchhiker phenomena it's like don't

2127
01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:35,920
never let that out what's going on with

2128
01:13:39,669 --> 01:13:37,679
that it's like that's not acceptable to

2129
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:39,679
you know for us it's even scary to us

2130
01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:41,600
but we we can accept it as maybe it's a

2131
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:43,520
possibility most people are gonna be

2132
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,199
like you're crazy give me a break that's

2133
01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:46,960
why it's not what is the hitchhiker

2134
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:48,560
phenomenon joe

2135
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:51,040
what if that is completely different

2136
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:53,199
from what we see buzzing around in our

2137
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,400
skies what if there's something

2138
01:13:58,470 --> 01:13:56,480
paranormal going on

2139
01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:58,480
right that's completely

2140
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:00,560
disconnected from aliens

2141
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:02,159
and i asked somebody i said somebody who

2142
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:04,560
has more access to data than we do and i

2143
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:06,400
said what do you think is it multiple

2144
01:14:11,669 --> 01:14:09,280
different things et interdimensional

2145
01:14:13,910 --> 01:14:11,679
extraterrestrial time travel or is it

2146
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:13,920
one intelligence mimicking all those

2147
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:15,760
other ones just to trick us for whatever

2148
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:17,679
reason into thinking they're coming from

2149
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:19,120
somewhere else and the person said to me

2150
01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:19,920
he goes

2151
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:21,679
they gave me some examples of that that

2152
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:23,440
was that were contradictory and they

2153
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:26,000
said it's a [\h__\h] show they go we don't

2154
01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:27,600
know whether or not that's still the

2155
01:14:32,229 --> 01:14:29,600
case two or three years later i don't

2156
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:32,239
know so yeah it's very possible that

2157
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:33,760
that kind of hitchhiker thing has

2158
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:35,760
nothing to do with ufos in the sky but

2159
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:37,440
there's also paul eno who has talked

2160
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:39,440
about poltergeist flaps that go along

2161
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:41,120
with ufo flaps which makes me think

2162
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:42,640
there is a connection and i will have

2163
01:14:45,110 --> 01:14:43,760
paul on

2164
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:45,120
and i can't wait to have him on because

2165
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:46,400
he's really interesting and he could

2166
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:47,920
just do his presentation and i could

2167
01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:49,360
just pick his brain it's really really

2168
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:50,480
interesting guy he thinks we're dealing

2169
01:14:54,070 --> 01:14:52,159
with parasites

2170
01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:54,080
so look at this new technology in this

2171
01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:55,840
new i mean and not technology this new

2172
01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:58,080
legislation that's been put out it has

2173
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:01,199
nothing to do with the paranormal it's

2174
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:04,080
only looking at nuts and bolts crafts

2175
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:06,880
that we catch in our skies how are we

2176
01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:08,960
supposed to answer all of these

2177
01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:11,199
questions if we're so limited at this

2178
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:12,239
point

2179
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:13,760
they're never going to admit the i don't

2180
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:16,080
think they're ever ever in a million

2181
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,480
years gonna admit about the orbs the

2182
01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:20,480
shadow beings all the missing people all

2183
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:21,679
the world that are scientifically

2184
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:24,000
unexplainable missing people case cases

2185
01:15:28,709 --> 01:15:26,880
including children boats airplanes

2186
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:28,719
the hitchhiker effect those are things i

2187
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:31,440
think nobody will ever admit the most i

2188
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:33,520
think they will ever admit i was just

2189
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:34,880
talking about this with gary voorhees

2190
01:15:39,669 --> 01:15:37,440
the other day is that they might admit

2191
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:39,679
that some of it is has that we've come

2192
01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:41,360
to the conclusion after 80 years of

2193
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:42,880
studying it some of it is non-human and

2194
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:45,840
origin they used to be here they left or

2195
01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:48,239
they're not a threat to that maybe even

2196
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:50,239
that probably not but admitting if you

2197
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:52,000
look at david politis research all the

2198
01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:53,760
missing people that are just gone

2199
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:55,440
without a trace not a drop of shred of

2200
01:15:59,830 --> 01:15:58,239
hair blood is ever found again and um if

2201
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:59,840
you look at the surroundings of how

2202
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:01,040
they've gone missing and even when

2203
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:02,880
they're found again how they're found

2204
01:16:06,790 --> 01:16:05,040
and what state their body looks like

2205
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:06,800
and what's happening it it doesn't seem

2206
01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:08,159
like humans can do that i don't think

2207
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:09,760
they'll ever that would cause mass

2208
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:14,950
look at

2209
01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:21,679
there was a um there is a government

2210
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:23,600
entity it's not just a government entity

2211
01:16:28,229 --> 01:16:26,080
it's a global entity that produces a

2212
01:16:31,590 --> 01:16:28,239
paper and i will try to send it to you

2213
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:31,600
joe if i find it it's a it shows all of

2214
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:33,520
the global

2215
01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:35,840
missing persons cases

2216
01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:38,960
and it breaks it down into what

2217
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:40,560
in the categories

2218
01:16:46,149 --> 01:16:44,159
into everything um you know

2219
01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:46,159
people are doing some messed up [\h__\h]

2220
01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:47,600
around the world there's a lot of it's

2221
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:50,640
attributed to cannibalism or

2222
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:53,280
um sex trafficking but there's a lot

2223
01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:55,760
that is unaccounted for

2224
01:17:01,510 --> 01:16:57,920
so

2225
01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:01,520
we can't account for any of those cases

2226
01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:03,840
and i love missing 4-1-1 i've followed

2227
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,560
it for many many years

2228
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:08,400
it's just it's just one of those things

2229
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:10,880
like what if somebody how in the hell is

2230
01:17:13,189 --> 01:17:12,400
the government going to come out and say

2231
01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:13,199
hey

2232
01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:16,480
x amount of cases is attributed to

2233
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:19,440
abductions from aliens

2234
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:21,440
they can't do that ever like joe said i

2235
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:24,080
cannot admit that they are some of them

2236
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:25,600
are interdimensional they can appear and

2237
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:26,960
disappear at world they can be sitting

2238
01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:28,880
there in your bedroom watching you sleep

2239
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:31,520
watching you uh all day long that no

2240
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:32,719
that would scare people too much and

2241
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:34,320
taking your kids or your loved ones

2242
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:36,719
without permission without consent i

2243
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:39,760
asked that on ufo garage to elizondo on

2244
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:41,360
a super chat i asked about the missing

2245
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:43,520
people and he did confirm that it is

2246
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:44,960
they do know about it the military knows

2247
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:46,239
about the mysteriously missing people

2248
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:48,320
and it is a very important valid topic

2249
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:49,679
to look into

2250
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:50,719
uh

2251
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:52,000
i'm pretty sure they know and david

2252
01:17:55,669 --> 01:17:54,400
polita says the fbi does show up and is

2253
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:55,679
keeping track of the ones that are

2254
01:17:59,030 --> 01:17:57,600
completely scientifically unexplainable

2255
01:18:01,510 --> 01:17:59,040
so they're keeping records of people

2256
01:18:02,390 --> 01:18:01,520
that are just taken without permission

2257
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:02,400
um

2258
01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:03,760
john i'm gonna let you go because i need

2259
01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:05,360
to get into this put off paper thank you

2260
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:06,880
very much for coming on and anytime

2261
01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:08,320
anytime i'm here you want to come on

2262
01:18:10,709 --> 01:18:09,840
feel free

2263
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:10,719
all right

2264
01:18:14,709 --> 01:18:13,679
you too

2265
01:18:16,229 --> 01:18:14,719
thanks

2266
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:16,239
and we need to get the put off paper

2267
01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:17,360
because i only wanted to do a couple

2268
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:19,840
hours hey uh we have one other person

2269
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:20,960
hey

2270
01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:22,960
who's muted i'll give you one more

2271
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:24,320
chance if you want to unmute your mic

2272
01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:27,120
and speak you can otherwise i am gonna

2273
01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:32,310
all right i'm gonna let him go get him

2274
01:18:35,990 --> 01:18:34,000
out of the stream and now

2275
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:36,000
what is shelley asking who pays you i

2276
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:37,440
don't know what you're asking shelly who

2277
01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:38,640
pays who

2278
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:40,640
i got ten dollars tonight which was

2279
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:43,199
great from gary i don't know nobody pays

2280
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:45,280
jess so i'm not really sure i'm missing

2281
01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:46,960
oh i can tell you i'm not paid i wish i

2282
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:49,280
were paid like i know joe wish he was

2283
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:51,120
paid this is that's another one of those

2284
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:53,520
ridiculous claims that everybody

2285
01:18:58,390 --> 01:18:56,400
especially you guys who have been

2286
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:58,400
uh the front of this whole thing from

2287
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:59,679
the beginning everybody thinks oh you

2288
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:01,440
guys are being paid from the top down

2289
01:19:08,550 --> 01:19:02,960
that's not true

2290
01:19:09,830 --> 01:19:08,560
getting paid and if they are it's not

2291
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:09,840
any of us

2292
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:11,760
yeah somebody accused early on he was

2293
01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:13,760
danny and i of getting paid by ttsa and

2294
01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:15,840
then somebody recently accused me of

2295
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:18,159
getting paid by george knapp and jeremy

2296
01:19:22,870 --> 01:19:20,560
corbell it's like no i get

2297
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:22,880
i get a few hundred bucks from patreon

2298
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:25,040
and then paypal and venmo it helps me a

2299
01:19:28,950 --> 01:19:27,280
little bit does not pay my bills i would

2300
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:28,960
love if i had enough support to do that

2301
01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:31,040
but as of right now i don't i need to do

2302
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:32,400
more youtube i know that people love

2303
01:19:36,070 --> 01:19:34,640
that um especially having somebody like

2304
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:36,080
you i've never had a co-host like this

2305
01:19:39,669 --> 01:19:38,320
so it's great you guys can talk and i

2306
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:39,679
can eat cheetos because i haven't eaten

2307
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:40,560
dinner

2308
01:19:44,310 --> 01:19:42,320
um

2309
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:44,320
let's let's uh

2310
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:46,560
let's get off let's go

2311
01:19:49,990 --> 01:19:48,800
off is there was there if there's a ufo

2312
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:50,000
connection to these missing people i'd

2313
01:19:52,950 --> 01:19:51,440
consider it i haven't looked into it i

2314
01:19:53,750 --> 01:19:52,960
don't know if it's ufo but it's really

2315
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:53,760
odd you should check out the

2316
01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:56,080
documentaries because these cases look

2317
01:20:01,669 --> 01:19:58,320
very very anomalous i don't know what

2318
01:20:04,149 --> 01:20:01,679
the heck's going on and paulide's um

2319
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:04,159
he's super nice guys a little hard to

2320
01:20:08,229 --> 01:20:05,600
get along with online if you say the

2321
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:08,239
wrong thing he'll block you easily but

2322
01:20:11,590 --> 01:20:10,159
yeah there may be accidents i don't know

2323
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:11,600
we don't know but i'm going to get to

2324
01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:13,120
put off we got to read it i haven't read

2325
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:15,840
it i'm really curious to read it and

2326
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:17,760
i'll start

2327
01:20:21,110 --> 01:20:19,280
reading if you want to read it all you

2328
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:21,120
can let me know just we have 70 people

2329
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:23,920
on a sunday night which is really good

2330
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:25,679
uh with no guests

2331
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:27,280
so thank you for watching everybody and

2332
01:20:32,149 --> 01:20:30,080
i'm going to sneeze in a second darn it

2333
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:32,159
yeah sorry somebody just jumped into the

2334
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:33,920
chat again and saying i want to know

2335
01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:35,520
about her i want to know who

2336
01:20:39,510 --> 01:20:38,000
who's paid this this person it's just

2337
01:20:41,189 --> 01:20:39,520
probably another one of my trolls that

2338
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:41,199
have been following me the past couple

2339
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:44,400
of weeks and you know what thank you

2340
01:20:48,229 --> 01:20:46,960
you know you keep going you keep putting

2341
01:20:50,229 --> 01:20:48,239
me out there

2342
01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:50,239
um i don't like to be honest but the

2343
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:52,880
more that you guys do that

2344
01:20:59,350 --> 01:20:57,679
pisses me off a little bit more

2345
01:21:01,430 --> 01:20:59,360
you know what travis taylor would say

2346
01:21:03,350 --> 01:21:01,440
he'd say a guy yeah i know who the hell

2347
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:03,360
pain you go to

2348
01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:05,440
who is gonna pay you to come on a tv

2349
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:07,920
show for free you're obviously getting

2350
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:09,760
paid

2351
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:12,080
i love your travis taylor impression i

2352
01:21:16,629 --> 01:21:13,360
always have

2353
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:16,639
and i always will so let's go

2354
01:21:20,629 --> 01:21:18,080
i'm going to read the put off in

2355
01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:20,639
bernie's voice bernie sanders under

2356
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:23,040
consideration in this paper are two all

2357
01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:25,120
right bernie's even better but knock it

2358
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:26,159
off

2359
01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:30,480
this paper has been rumored for a long

2360
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:32,080
time i think the only person who's seen

2361
01:21:35,270 --> 01:21:34,000
it in our community was ryan bledsoe

2362
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:35,280
probably through his connection with jim

2363
01:21:41,350 --> 01:21:37,920
semivan ultra terrestrials ultra

2364
01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:42,950
abstract under consideration in this

2365
01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:45,199
paper are two seminal statements and

2366
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:48,320
they're com con what what is that word

2367
01:21:53,350 --> 01:21:49,280
khan

2368
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:53,360
i've never seen that word i can't see it

2369
01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:54,560
like you need to make it can you make it

2370
01:21:59,110 --> 01:21:57,280
bigger so i can see it darn it

2371
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:59,120
i'm gonna have to look it up the problem

2372
01:22:02,310 --> 01:22:01,040
is you can find out

2373
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:02,320
yeah but you can't see all of it it's

2374
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:03,840
cut off now like make it a little bit

2375
01:22:06,149 --> 01:22:05,280
smaller there we go there we go that's

2376
01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:06,159
perfect

2377
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:08,000
almost

2378
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:12,480
on i'll do it no

2379
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:14,080
i still have more room to go watch watch

2380
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:14,960
watch

2381
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:18,400
oh perfect right there right there

2382
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:20,320
yeah what is that word con comment

2383
01:22:27,189 --> 01:22:25,990
um it's cut off by my face so i can't

2384
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:27,199
see it

2385
01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:29,040
no it's right at the top act right under

2386
01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:30,800
underser consideration in this paper are

2387
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:36,470
statements and their concomitants

2388
01:22:41,590 --> 01:22:39,199
currently unknown anyway

2389
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:41,600
as follows

2390
01:22:45,189 --> 01:22:43,600
there's an unidentified phenomenon

2391
01:22:47,990 --> 01:22:45,199
interacting with the current human

2392
01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:48,000
population on earth that's one but

2393
01:22:51,430 --> 01:22:49,520
there's a link in the comments to this

2394
01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:51,440
not the comments in the description

2395
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:52,800
and if people i don't think i've ever

2396
01:22:55,990 --> 01:22:54,239
asked this if you want to like this and

2397
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:56,000
subscribe it helps but i don't really

2398
01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:57,520
know exactly how it helps i think it's

2399
01:23:00,709 --> 01:22:58,560
the way

2400
01:23:02,390 --> 01:23:00,719
the algorithms are and hello mick from

2401
01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:02,400
australia

2402
01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:04,320
no i'm making me

2403
01:23:07,629 --> 01:23:06,080
it is currently unknown whether the

2404
01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:07,639
phenomenon is exclusively

2405
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:10,080
extraterrestrial extra dimensional

2406
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:13,120
crypto terrestrial meaning it's here

2407
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:16,080
based here native to this planet demonic

2408
01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:17,760
which when i saw that wow this is really

2409
01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:20,480
open-minded uh gin which i know you've

2410
01:23:25,030 --> 01:23:22,880
done a lot of work on which is basically

2411
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:25,040
another word for crypto terrestrial if

2412
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:26,800
you really want to get technical with it

2413
01:23:32,629 --> 01:23:28,560
because they both originate on earth if

2414
01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:33,430
and

2415
01:23:36,790 --> 01:23:35,120
yeah

2416
01:23:38,470 --> 01:23:36,800
hold on let me just i'm sorry shelly

2417
01:23:39,990 --> 01:23:38,480
you're not gonna constantly you're not

2418
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:40,000
gonna constantly just keep doing this

2419
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:42,480
i'm gonna i'm gonna get rid of you sorry

2420
01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:43,760
yeah get rid of that person because that

2421
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:46,960
person's obviously one of my trolls so

2422
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:48,719
have them be out

2423
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:50,719
all right so

2424
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:52,639
yeah i've had her i don't know why she's

2425
01:23:59,910 --> 01:23:58,310
it's under consideration no

2426
01:24:02,390 --> 01:23:59,920
it's currently unknown whether phenomena

2427
01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:02,400
blah blah blah is it proto ancient proto

2428
01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:05,199
slash ancient human

2429
01:24:11,189 --> 01:24:08,159
time travelers etc or some combination

2430
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:11,199
or mutation of any or all of these

2431
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:13,360
however it appears

2432
01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:14,719
likely

2433
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:17,760
and let me i'm sorry guys

2434
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:23,189
he says extra dimensional instead of

2435
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:25,040
inter-dimensional which is interesting

2436
01:24:29,189 --> 01:24:26,320
because those are

2437
01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:29,199
two kind of different things but

2438
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:32,800
i mean i guess for the layman it means

2439
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:33,920
and by the way

2440
01:24:38,390 --> 01:24:36,080
lisa thank you for the advice

2441
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,400
i did block her it's there's only if

2442
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:40,320
somebody wants to ask that once that's

2443
01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:42,800
fine but you know leave us alone i mean

2444
01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:45,040
obviously we're not getting paid

2445
01:24:50,750 --> 01:24:47,600
from any specific

2446
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:50,760
nefarious source yeah i mean

2447
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:52,960
extraterrest extra dimensional meaning

2448
01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:54,480
maybe that they're using dimensions like

2449
01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:56,239
eric davis says we think they're using

2450
01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:57,199
whatever

2451
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:58,400
wherever they're from they're using

2452
01:25:02,709 --> 01:25:00,719
dimensions to get here um but i mean

2453
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:02,719
that topic is so complicated that could

2454
01:25:07,189 --> 01:25:04,159
mean like a hundred different things

2455
01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:07,199
like just in and of itself

2456
01:25:11,270 --> 01:25:08,960
yeah and it's like i i never explain

2457
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:11,280
other dimensions anyway um so however it

2458
01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:12,480
appears highly likely that the

2459
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:14,639
phenomenon per se is not constituted

2460
01:25:19,270 --> 01:25:16,800
exclusively of members of the current

2461
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:19,280
human population so it seems like that

2462
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:21,600
leaves open the door for some

2463
01:25:26,510 --> 01:25:23,679
black technology

2464
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:26,520
um unless he's talking about

2465
01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:29,440
proto-human ancient human uh but that's

2466
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:31,360
not current human population

2467
01:25:35,669 --> 01:25:33,600
and feel free to jump in anytime in this

2468
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:35,679
paper we'll address the above

2469
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:37,920
under the our overarching theme ultra

2470
01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:39,760
terrestrials in order to develop a

2471
01:25:43,669 --> 01:25:41,520
template to be matched against data at

2472
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:43,679
hand and that may be procured in the

2473
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:46,000
future keywords extraterrestrials and

2474
01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:51,590
also terrestrial models background as

2475
01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:53,199
one takes a decades-long view of the

2476
01:25:56,790 --> 01:25:55,840
unidentified aerial phenomena uap ufo

2477
01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:56,800
topic

2478
01:26:01,990 --> 01:25:58,800
it is easy to become frustrated by what

2479
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:02,000
one sees as a lack of robust progress in

2480
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:05,040
establishing sure in certain ironclad

2481
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:06,719
data points about even the most

2482
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:08,960
fundamental of issues these issues

2483
01:26:13,750 --> 01:26:11,679
prompt such key questions as follows

2484
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:13,760
is the phenomenon predominantly nuts and

2485
01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:14,800
bolts

2486
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:17,199
psychological or metaphysical assuming

2487
01:26:21,669 --> 01:26:19,600
such distinctions can be made

2488
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:21,679
is the source of the phenomenon and if

2489
01:26:24,229 --> 01:26:23,040
you want to jump in on any of that i

2490
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:24,239
mean

2491
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:26,080
metaphase now go ahead and read it go

2492
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:27,360
ahead and read it and i'll jump in at

2493
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:28,960
the end

2494
01:26:33,229 --> 01:26:30,719
is the source of the phenomenon

2495
01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:33,239
predominantly terrestrial

2496
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:35,920
ultra-terrestrial example ancient occult

2497
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:38,560
group isolated pre-diluvial high

2498
01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:41,440
technology meaning before the flood i

2499
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,880
think

2500
01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:44,719
stranded et's

2501
01:26:49,189 --> 01:26:47,440
quote-unquote gods or extraterrestrial

2502
01:26:51,270 --> 01:26:49,199
assuming that distinctions between these

2503
01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:51,280
alternatives are meaningful

2504
01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:54,239
has the phenomenon ramped up in our era

2505
01:26:58,629 --> 01:26:56,719
era or has it been essentially constant

2506
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:58,639
over millennia

2507
01:27:02,470 --> 01:27:00,719
or often i would say that it has

2508
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:02,480
absolutely ramped up and i'm sorry i

2509
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:04,880
don't mean to jump in but you told me to

2510
01:27:09,189 --> 01:27:07,440
i think that has absolutely ramped up in

2511
01:27:12,629 --> 01:27:09,199
our current

2512
01:27:18,709 --> 01:27:12,639
um era simply because technology has

2513
01:27:22,390 --> 01:27:20,629
no that's definitely that's definitely

2514
01:27:24,550 --> 01:27:22,400
what i was thinking is a possibility you

2515
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:24,560
know it's like it's hard to tell

2516
01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:26,400
if there's if we if any of this is our

2517
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:28,320
technology and it's ramped up to figure

2518
01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:29,360
out

2519
01:27:35,510 --> 01:27:31,679
why it's ramped up if it's them or it's

2520
01:27:37,270 --> 01:27:35,520
us ramping it up i mean i don't know

2521
01:27:42,390 --> 01:27:37,280
are oft

2522
01:27:44,629 --> 01:27:42,400
such as claimed abductions crop circles

2523
01:27:46,149 --> 01:27:44,639
and animal mutilations truly related or

2524
01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:46,159
are they separate categories of

2525
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:47,920
phenomena

2526
01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:49,440
my god

2527
01:27:52,229 --> 01:27:50,960
this is one of those hard things where

2528
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:52,239
are we really going to be able to get

2529
01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:54,000
through this whole paper because not

2530
01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:55,840
everything is related and not every

2531
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:58,880
cattle mutilation is related to the ufo

2532
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,040
topic we have seen even with the mids

2533
01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:03,360
papers that there were scalpels found

2534
01:28:08,229 --> 01:28:05,760
under some of these cows that absolutely

2535
01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:08,239
points back to humans like doing

2536
01:28:12,149 --> 01:28:11,040
research we know the whole downwinding

2537
01:28:15,430 --> 01:28:12,159
issue

2538
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:15,440
from uh the

2539
01:28:20,229 --> 01:28:17,600
that the bombs that were that were put

2540
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:20,239
off and all of our uh testing that we

2541
01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:22,320
did in nevada that

2542
01:28:28,149 --> 01:28:25,280
was sent over to nevada i mean to uh

2543
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:28,159
utah we can't attribute every single

2544
01:28:33,350 --> 01:28:31,199
cattle mutilation to extraterrestrials

2545
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:33,360
if you if you if you listen don't listen

2546
01:28:36,550 --> 01:28:34,880
to linda moulton howell on that if you

2547
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:36,560
listen to christopher o'brien he thinks

2548
01:28:40,550 --> 01:28:38,480
the majority of cattle mutilations are

2549
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:40,560
carried out by some covert human group

2550
01:28:45,430 --> 01:28:42,960
but there is a small percentage that

2551
01:28:47,830 --> 01:28:45,440
are high strangeness that

2552
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:47,840
are just even baffling to him so i'm

2553
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:49,840
fine with that colin kelleher has a book

2554
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:50,800
called

2555
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:53,760
brain brain

2556
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:56,639
food but it talks about how mass mad cow

2557
01:28:59,430 --> 01:28:58,000
disease is related to the cattle

2558
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:59,440
mutilations how they're checking the

2559
01:29:03,270 --> 01:29:00,960
environment that's i think that's his

2560
01:29:05,270 --> 01:29:03,280
leading theory but there are cases that

2561
01:29:07,430 --> 01:29:05,280
are that are totally anomalous there's

2562
01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:07,440
one at skinwalker ranch where the the

2563
01:29:11,189 --> 01:29:09,520
calf was out in daylight that you know

2564
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:11,199
the rancher was right by next thing you

2565
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:13,360
know boom mutilated i mean i guess it

2566
01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:14,880
could be some covert technology but

2567
01:29:17,590 --> 01:29:16,320
there are cases that are very hard to

2568
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:17,600
explain

2569
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:18,880
um

2570
01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:21,840
anyway let me keep reading

2571
01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:24,000
as institutions such as governments

2572
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:26,960
truly that what isn't are are

2573
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:29,040
institutions such as governments truly

2574
01:29:33,270 --> 01:29:31,440
that much more knowledgeable than we are

2575
01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:33,280
even if only in certain protected

2576
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:35,280
domains or are they essentially in the

2577
01:29:40,229 --> 01:29:37,440
same position as as we are give or take

2578
01:29:42,070 --> 01:29:40,239
some hard data in hand i hope i hope

2579
01:29:44,310 --> 01:29:42,080
they're not in the same position as us

2580
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:44,320
after 70 years of studying this that

2581
01:29:48,390 --> 01:29:46,480
would be really depressing

2582
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:48,400
if they don't have some idea of what the

2583
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:54,070
fall asleep with us

2584
01:29:58,709 --> 01:29:56,480
yeah well

2585
01:30:01,350 --> 01:29:58,719
i believe that they're they know a lot

2586
01:30:02,550 --> 01:30:01,360
more than what we are privy to so

2587
01:30:04,310 --> 01:30:02,560
continue

2588
01:30:05,669 --> 01:30:04,320
i hope so um

2589
01:30:06,629 --> 01:30:05,679
and i've made the argument there i think

2590
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:06,639
there are certain people in our

2591
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:08,800
government that know a lot more and

2592
01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:09,920
maybe they're in

2593
01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:11,920
you know they're probably well it's

2594
01:30:15,590 --> 01:30:14,480
beneficial to them to keep us dumb

2595
01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:15,600
uh

2596
01:30:18,790 --> 01:30:17,360
barefoot and pregnant

2597
01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:18,800
you know if you want to go back to old

2598
01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:21,280
terms pretty much the entire united

2599
01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:24,880
states entire uh population is kept

2600
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:27,440
barefoot and pregnant at this moment

2601
01:30:31,510 --> 01:30:29,040
no that's one of my favorite things from

2602
01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:31,520
the 2000 alien autopsy email leak where

2603
01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:33,760
hal or kit green doctor

2604
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:35,280
kit green says the folks in charge of

2605
01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:37,760
the of the secrecy just think of us as

2606
01:30:41,189 --> 01:30:39,360
not really

2607
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:41,199
you know they're not worthy of hearing

2608
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:42,480
about this information all they care

2609
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:44,320
about is watching football on sunday and

2610
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:46,400
now it would be reality tv so i really

2611
01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:49,360
can't argue with that as we see with

2612
01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:51,040
kim kardashian and

2613
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:53,440
kim kardashian with 90 million

2614
01:31:00,229 --> 01:30:58,790
it's only gotten worse

2615
01:31:01,750 --> 01:31:00,239
yeah it's getting worse johnny depp and

2616
01:31:04,070 --> 01:31:01,760
amber heard gets how many millions of

2617
01:31:06,550 --> 01:31:04,080
views in the ufo hearing

2618
01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:06,560
nothing basically so yeah oh one of the

2619
01:31:11,189 --> 01:31:09,120
people that have been a troll against me

2620
01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:11,199
for like the past couple of weeks like

2621
01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:14,159
90 of what she tweets out is about the

2622
01:31:17,189 --> 01:31:15,760
johnny depp trial and i'm like are you

2623
01:31:19,590 --> 01:31:17,199
[\h__\h] kidding me

2624
01:31:21,110 --> 01:31:19,600
so it's like we have been dumbed down if

2625
01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:21,120
you go back to

2626
01:31:26,229 --> 01:31:23,840
the 1920s 1930s certainly there was a

2627
01:31:27,830 --> 01:31:26,239
certain population of

2628
01:31:30,229 --> 01:31:27,840
especially in the united states a rural

2629
01:31:32,149 --> 01:31:30,239
population that was keep kept in the

2630
01:31:33,350 --> 01:31:32,159
dark but there was also a scientific

2631
01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:33,360
community

2632
01:31:39,189 --> 01:31:37,199
that has grown but since has been dumbed

2633
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:39,199
down as well it's one of those things

2634
01:31:43,990 --> 01:31:41,520
it's kind of hard to gauge in what

2635
01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:44,000
direction we're going like if you see

2636
01:31:49,750 --> 01:31:46,880
the movie uh idiocracy that's a perfect

2637
01:31:53,030 --> 01:31:49,760
example of where we're headed if people

2638
01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:53,040
continue to only pay attention to

2639
01:31:58,310 --> 01:31:55,840
what's popular in the movies and these

2640
01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:58,320
stars and not really they're sort of

2641
01:32:02,790 --> 01:32:00,719
getting away from the the scientific and

2642
01:32:03,750 --> 01:32:02,800
technology and more

2643
01:32:05,910 --> 01:32:03,760
um

2644
01:32:06,950 --> 01:32:05,920
educational aspects like

2645
01:32:08,870 --> 01:32:06,960
we're

2646
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:08,880
dumb as hell right now to be honest with

2647
01:32:14,629 --> 01:32:12,000
you we're devolving as well as evolving

2648
01:32:15,910 --> 01:32:14,639
at the same time

2649
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:15,920
let me just see what somebody says

2650
01:32:22,550 --> 01:32:19,990
somebody said are you saying that

2651
01:32:24,830 --> 01:32:22,560
skinwalker ranch is not reality tv as in

2652
01:32:27,910 --> 01:32:24,840
fiction or do you think it's an actual

2653
01:32:29,750 --> 01:32:27,920
documentary actual documentary no actual

2654
01:32:31,110 --> 01:32:29,760
documentaries are shot differently the

2655
01:32:32,550 --> 01:32:31,120
way that shows sharp because i've worked

2656
01:32:34,149 --> 01:32:32,560
on documentaries and it's you're

2657
01:32:36,149 --> 01:32:34,159
shooting non-stop all the time which

2658
01:32:38,149 --> 01:32:36,159
really sucks as a camera guy it's a it's

2659
01:32:41,350 --> 01:32:38,159
a reality show that's kind of kind of

2660
01:32:43,750 --> 01:32:41,360
docu-style um do i think it's we're not

2661
01:32:46,070 --> 01:32:43,760
gonna get into this debate no i i don't

2662
01:32:47,990 --> 01:32:46,080
think it's fiction i don't know i can't

2663
01:32:48,790 --> 01:32:48,000
say i'm not there shooting if anything

2664
01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:48,800
is

2665
01:32:54,070 --> 01:32:52,480
but um

2666
01:32:55,430 --> 01:32:54,080
you know i've worked on a lot of shows i

2667
01:32:57,110 --> 01:32:55,440
would never specifically talk about

2668
01:33:00,470 --> 01:32:57,120
shows but so i've worked on shows that

2669
01:33:02,149 --> 01:33:00,480
are very very produced very produced um

2670
01:33:03,030 --> 01:33:02,159
that doesn't seem like that's like that

2671
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:03,040
but

2672
01:33:06,470 --> 01:33:04,690
i'm gonna keep reading so um

2673
01:33:08,950 --> 01:33:06,480
[Music]

2674
01:33:10,870 --> 01:33:08,960
let's see critique as we critique our

2675
01:33:12,629 --> 01:33:10,880
position vis-a-vis these issues three

2676
01:33:14,709 --> 01:33:12,639
factors stand out as weaknesses to

2677
01:33:16,310 --> 01:33:14,719
potentially that could potentially could

2678
01:33:19,430 --> 01:33:16,320
be addressed by developing new

2679
01:33:23,590 --> 01:33:19,440
strategies they are

2680
01:33:25,590 --> 01:33:23,600
at a gathering is essentially passive

2681
01:33:27,030 --> 01:33:25,600
typically events are reported and data

2682
01:33:29,189 --> 01:33:27,040
are gathered and analyzed this

2683
01:33:32,229 --> 01:33:29,199
constitutes constitutes essentially a

2684
01:33:33,750 --> 01:33:32,239
reactive as opposed to proactive mode

2685
01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:33,760
this is not meant as a pejorative

2686
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:35,120
statement

2687
01:33:39,910 --> 01:33:37,040
astrophysicists find themselves in the

2688
01:33:41,990 --> 01:33:39,920
same situation even seemingly proactive

2689
01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:42,000
movements such as john greenwald

2690
01:33:45,750 --> 01:33:43,920
junior's foyer

2691
01:33:47,189 --> 01:33:45,760
foia government documents search in the

2692
01:33:50,709 --> 01:33:47,199
public arena

2693
01:33:53,110 --> 01:33:50,719
or attempted collection of the detritus

2694
01:33:55,510 --> 01:33:53,120
of classified programs by some under

2695
01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:55,520
special protected conditions

2696
01:33:59,590 --> 01:33:57,280
simply constitute efforts to cause the

2697
01:34:02,550 --> 01:33:59,600
government to release data to passive

2698
01:34:03,510 --> 01:34:02,560
ever hopeful recipients please give us

2699
01:34:05,189 --> 01:34:03,520
data

2700
01:34:06,310 --> 01:34:05,199
the ball is still in someone else's

2701
01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:06,320
court

2702
01:34:09,750 --> 01:34:08,080
and that's hopeful hopefully what the

2703
01:34:11,669 --> 01:34:09,760
congregational congressional language is

2704
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:11,679
heading us in a direction where we're

2705
01:34:14,709 --> 01:34:13,440
getting some of that data hopefully

2706
01:34:16,550 --> 01:34:14,719
we'll see

2707
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:16,560
other more proactive measures could be

2708
01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:18,880
taken ranging from relatively prosaic

2709
01:34:27,270 --> 01:34:24,550
setting up all weather

2710
01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:27,280
all sky optical ir monitoring stations

2711
01:34:30,470 --> 01:34:28,960
which is basically

2712
01:34:32,149 --> 01:34:30,480
galileo

2713
01:34:33,669 --> 01:34:32,159
i'm not sure of exactly the same

2714
01:34:35,910 --> 01:34:33,679
technology but they're basically gonna

2715
01:34:38,229 --> 01:34:35,920
measure the sky they're going to look at

2716
01:34:40,709 --> 01:34:38,239
the sky and try to capture stuff

2717
01:34:42,870 --> 01:34:40,719
uh relatively prosaic

2718
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:42,880
through the more tech intensive

2719
01:34:50,070 --> 01:34:48,070
example magnetic

2720
01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:50,080
disturbance and radio frequency

2721
01:34:55,109 --> 01:34:52,080
gigahertz detectors multi-variable

2722
01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:55,119
monitoring suites exo arc archaeological

2723
01:34:59,430 --> 01:34:57,520
investigations

2724
01:35:01,510 --> 01:34:59,440
to the arcane example search for

2725
01:35:03,350 --> 01:35:01,520
evidence of anomalous manipulation of

2726
01:35:04,629 --> 01:35:03,360
human genetic structure which is my

2727
01:35:05,990 --> 01:35:04,639
favorite one which people will not be

2728
01:35:07,990 --> 01:35:06,000
able to handle if that really did take

2729
01:35:10,790 --> 01:35:08,000
place they messed with our genes and

2730
01:35:12,870 --> 01:35:10,800
created us our current form and

2731
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:12,880
stretching to the esoteric example

2732
01:35:17,590 --> 01:35:15,600
remote viewing telepathic contact

2733
01:35:19,350 --> 01:35:17,600
and i tell people i love remote viewing

2734
01:35:21,830 --> 01:35:19,360
but the results when you get them you

2735
01:35:25,750 --> 01:35:21,840
can't base anything until you prove that

2736
01:35:28,470 --> 01:35:25,760
it's accurate it's just without feedback

2737
01:35:30,390 --> 01:35:28,480
here's my issue with all of that is that

2738
01:35:31,750 --> 01:35:30,400
we have been doing this

2739
01:35:33,350 --> 01:35:31,760
from the beginning

2740
01:35:35,830 --> 01:35:33,360
and

2741
01:35:37,510 --> 01:35:35,840
now they're coming out with the galileo

2742
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:37,520
project that's supposed to be new eyes

2743
01:35:42,550 --> 01:35:40,480
on it this is not new nasa has been

2744
01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:42,560
doing this for a very long time

2745
01:35:47,109 --> 01:35:45,520
nasa has all of this data and technology

2746
01:35:49,030 --> 01:35:47,119
and we have we know everything that

2747
01:35:51,430 --> 01:35:49,040
we're doing already

2748
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:51,440
um exactly somebody told me on the phone

2749
01:35:55,510 --> 01:35:53,280
like last week to go we're

2750
01:35:57,270 --> 01:35:55,520
we're reinventing the reinventing the

2751
01:35:59,189 --> 01:35:57,280
wheel we already have

2752
01:36:01,030 --> 01:35:59,199
more than enough data the problem is we

2753
01:36:02,310 --> 01:36:01,040
can't get access we can't get access to

2754
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:02,320
it so we have to do something like

2755
01:36:05,990 --> 01:36:04,560
galileo and these other programs for now

2756
01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:06,000
hopefully some point at some point in

2757
01:36:12,709 --> 01:36:10,560
time they go hey um avi yeah cut it off

2758
01:36:14,470 --> 01:36:12,719
we got access to the the warehouse that

2759
01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:14,480
eric davis has talked about corvallis

2760
01:36:17,990 --> 01:36:16,560
talked about the legend warehouse

2761
01:36:19,510 --> 01:36:18,000
i don't know if it's air force but where

2762
01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:19,520
they keep stuff i don't know if they

2763
01:36:23,990 --> 01:36:21,760
called it a paper paper trail warehouse

2764
01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:24,000
but if that stuff really exists yeah we

2765
01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:26,320
don't have to waste our time

2766
01:36:30,390 --> 01:36:28,239
doing something like galileo we already

2767
01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:30,400
have enough evidence that we don't but

2768
01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:32,400
in the meantime i guess you know so why

2769
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:34,880
is it there was legislation to release

2770
01:36:38,629 --> 01:36:37,280
all of that data instead of gather new

2771
01:36:41,109 --> 01:36:38,639
data

2772
01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:41,119
why wasn't there legislation yeah why

2773
01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:43,280
why is that not part of it there is

2774
01:36:46,629 --> 01:36:44,880
that's that's part of the programs where

2775
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:46,639
people worked in these programs no

2776
01:36:50,709 --> 01:36:49,600
it's not look at nasa nasa is sitting

2777
01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:50,719
here saying

2778
01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:52,960
hey we are just now we're going to take

2779
01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:55,199
a hundred thousand dollars for the next

2780
01:37:01,030 --> 01:36:57,520
year which is basically a single person

2781
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:01,040
salary for the next year to just assess

2782
01:37:04,070 --> 01:37:02,800
what we need to do

2783
01:37:06,870 --> 01:37:04,080
and what

2784
01:37:10,629 --> 01:37:06,880
data we need to collect it's just

2785
01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:10,639
you know what it is it's it it's

2786
01:37:15,189 --> 01:37:13,600
kicking the can basically it's putting

2787
01:37:17,350 --> 01:37:15,199
things in place

2788
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:17,360
in order for them to not answer these

2789
01:37:19,669 --> 01:37:18,400
questions

2790
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:19,679
right now

2791
01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:21,840
it's for them to kick it down the road

2792
01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:23,360
for another year

2793
01:37:26,790 --> 01:37:25,600
as long as see the thing with nasa it's

2794
01:37:28,390 --> 01:37:26,800
really interesting i only listen to the

2795
01:37:29,990 --> 01:37:28,400
first 15 minutes i want to listen

2796
01:37:31,750 --> 01:37:30,000
because i know i know you're not as big

2797
01:37:33,830 --> 01:37:31,760
a fan or not a fan at all jim sending

2798
01:37:35,830 --> 01:37:33,840
man but he talked about he goes it's not

2799
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:35,840
just the air force and these programs

2800
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:37,440
these black programs nasa would have

2801
01:37:40,950 --> 01:37:39,520
their own program too but the people at

2802
01:37:42,629 --> 01:37:40,960
nasa would not have access to that

2803
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:42,639
program it's a very small percentage

2804
01:37:46,950 --> 01:37:45,600
eric davis said 1 100 000 of the people

2805
01:37:48,709 --> 01:37:46,960
who have clearances would even have

2806
01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:48,719
access to those programs it's a very

2807
01:37:52,950 --> 01:37:50,880
small amount so yes nasa according to

2808
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:52,960
semiband would have a program like that

2809
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:54,400
you know to bring up the controversial

2810
01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:56,320
erie geller he said he went there and he

2811
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:57,679
he talked about bodies he didn't give

2812
01:38:02,070 --> 01:37:59,600
any details it's possible maybe nasa has

2813
01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:02,080
bodies if we have such a thing um but

2814
01:38:04,149 --> 01:38:02,880
yeah

2815
01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:04,159
it's going to be up to congress to see

2816
01:38:06,950 --> 01:38:05,760
how push hard they can push and how much

2817
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:06,960
they can do with the pentagon because

2818
01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:08,159
the people in the pentagon who don't

2819
01:38:11,189 --> 01:38:09,440
want this out they're going to try to

2820
01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:11,199
wait it out until you get somebody in

2821
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:12,560
office who doesn't give a crap about

2822
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:15,119
ufos like gillibrand and rubio and

2823
01:38:19,910 --> 01:38:17,520
and gallagher

2824
01:38:22,790 --> 01:38:19,920
this is where the term slow dip drip

2825
01:38:25,669 --> 01:38:22,800
disclosure comes into play because

2826
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:25,679
it's it's all been orchestrated it's all

2827
01:38:30,310 --> 01:38:27,760
been planned out okay first we release

2828
01:38:31,109 --> 01:38:30,320
this first we release that we get people

2829
01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:31,119
we

2830
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:33,440
basically let them dip their toes into

2831
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:36,080
it and eventually wade into it what are

2832
01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:38,159
we waiting into

2833
01:38:40,870 --> 01:38:39,520
i don't know if there really is a plan

2834
01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:40,880
to do this i'm very open to that

2835
01:38:44,950 --> 01:38:43,280
possibility i've suggested maybe lou is

2836
01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:44,960
the point person and i think what

2837
01:38:48,790 --> 01:38:46,719
they're waiting for is the the the

2838
01:38:51,270 --> 01:38:48,800
general public to get up to speed and

2839
01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:51,280
that's never gonna happen so as i said

2840
01:38:54,790 --> 01:38:53,280
on twitter i said just rip the band-aid

2841
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:54,800
off you know maybe they're afraid of

2842
01:38:57,910 --> 01:38:56,800
panic whatever the real story is it's so

2843
01:38:59,910 --> 01:38:57,920
scary that people aren't going to be

2844
01:39:01,520 --> 01:38:59,920
able to handle it i don't know i'm

2845
01:39:02,870 --> 01:39:01,530
totally speculating there um

2846
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:02,880
[Music]

2847
01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:04,800
but yeah i mean at least i mean i am

2848
01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:06,480
happy that at least it's being talked

2849
01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:08,080
about never anything like this in my

2850
01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:09,600
lifetime they're never talking about you

2851
01:39:13,109 --> 01:39:11,520
know black programs with maybe

2852
01:39:14,950 --> 01:39:13,119
where they're exploiting technology

2853
01:39:16,550 --> 01:39:14,960
which you know it's encouraging but i

2854
01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:16,560
know i say it all the time people need

2855
01:39:19,189 --> 01:39:17,600
to be patient because there's going to

2856
01:39:20,709 --> 01:39:19,199
be a lot of bumps in the road because

2857
01:39:22,149 --> 01:39:20,719
there are people that don't want to they

2858
01:39:24,470 --> 01:39:22,159
don't want the story out they don't want

2859
01:39:26,149 --> 01:39:24,480
technology out whatever we have whether

2860
01:39:28,070 --> 01:39:26,159
you think it's our technology or theirs

2861
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:28,080
they're going to fight tooth and nail so

2862
01:39:31,270 --> 01:39:29,760
i don't know how much power it's going

2863
01:39:32,950 --> 01:39:31,280
to be a battle to see how much congress

2864
01:39:35,669 --> 01:39:32,960
could get them to give up because if

2865
01:39:37,109 --> 01:39:35,679
they know a lot of people sorry

2866
01:39:39,430 --> 01:39:37,119
a lot of people in the chat are like

2867
01:39:41,510 --> 01:39:39,440
just [\h__\h] read it already but there

2868
01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:41,520
is something in there that i would like

2869
01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:42,960
to comment on

2870
01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:45,679
uh luisa lozando said last year i want

2871
01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:48,400
to say around august september october

2872
01:39:52,709 --> 01:39:51,760
somewhere in that area range he uh said

2873
01:39:55,990 --> 01:39:52,719
hey

2874
01:39:57,910 --> 01:39:56,000
if you're impatient basically go away

2875
01:40:00,629 --> 01:39:57,920
find a hobby for five years and then

2876
01:40:01,910 --> 01:40:00,639
come back yeah so you think

2877
01:40:04,310 --> 01:40:01,920
yeah we did

2878
01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:04,320
we fight if we fight over everything joe

2879
01:40:07,350 --> 01:40:06,320
do you think that and

2880
01:40:10,070 --> 01:40:07,360
the next

2881
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:10,080
okay so that we're at the almost four

2882
01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:12,239
four year mark at this point so do you

2883
01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:13,119
think

2884
01:40:17,750 --> 01:40:14,639
we'll get that

2885
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:17,760
at in at that time frame

2886
01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:19,040
um

2887
01:40:22,229 --> 01:40:21,040
when he said that i think what he and i

2888
01:40:24,790 --> 01:40:22,239
don't think there's a specific time

2889
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:24,800
frame but it was more like listen

2890
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:27,199
we got we have we're not there yet to be

2891
01:40:31,109 --> 01:40:29,199
talking about you know in whether

2892
01:40:32,470 --> 01:40:31,119
hearings clothes or open bodies and

2893
01:40:34,550 --> 01:40:32,480
craft although

2894
01:40:36,070 --> 01:40:34,560
i think craft are being discussed now if

2895
01:40:37,910 --> 01:40:36,080
you're talking about programs and legacy

2896
01:40:39,830 --> 01:40:37,920
programs and exploitation

2897
01:40:41,350 --> 01:40:39,840
bodies i don't know i don't think we'll

2898
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:41,360
i don't know i mean i would love to say

2899
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:42,480
i don't think we're gonna have to wait

2900
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:44,000
five years i think next year or two

2901
01:40:46,870 --> 01:40:45,040
years from now we're gonna be talking

2902
01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:46,880
about those bodies that were supposedly

2903
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:48,560
you know we discovered a life form in

2904
01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:50,400
the cold war the general that supposedly

2905
01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:52,800
told that to tom delonge which jim

2906
01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:54,400
semivany said you know that's possible

2907
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:56,400
that that happened um he was very

2908
01:41:01,030 --> 01:40:58,159
careful not to go down the body route so

2909
01:41:03,350 --> 01:41:01,040
i don't know um i hope so i didn't think

2910
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:03,360
we'd be where we are right now no i'm

2911
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:05,199
going to say something that somebody is

2912
01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:07,600
going to probably pick my ass

2913
01:41:09,669 --> 01:41:08,880
for saying

2914
01:41:12,629 --> 01:41:09,679
but

2915
01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:12,639
according to several sources that i will

2916
01:41:18,470 --> 01:41:14,080
not name

2917
01:41:21,030 --> 01:41:18,480
elizondo has sort of a gag order or an

2918
01:41:22,390 --> 01:41:21,040
embargo or something before he cannot

2919
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:22,400
speak to the media you know how he

2920
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:24,719
stepped back

2921
01:41:28,709 --> 01:41:26,159
and he's like i'm not going to do any

2922
01:41:30,149 --> 01:41:28,719
podcasts i'm not going to do any of this

2923
01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:30,159
i'm not going to do any of that it's all

2924
01:41:33,830 --> 01:41:32,239
he this is all here say what i'm saying

2925
01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:33,840
but i was told

2926
01:41:37,270 --> 01:41:35,360
i was told that he's not going to be

2927
01:41:39,109 --> 01:41:37,280
able to do anything or respond to

2928
01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:39,119
anything publicly

2929
01:41:44,790 --> 01:41:42,719
until maybe october november

2930
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:44,800
and that's just hearsay i don't know if

2931
01:41:49,750 --> 01:41:47,840
it's true i don't know about the horse i

2932
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:49,760
i heard that that's all i'm gonna say i

2933
01:41:52,870 --> 01:41:50,880
hear that because he just did an

2934
01:41:54,070 --> 01:41:52,880
interview like a week ago for south

2935
01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:54,080
american

2936
01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:55,600
uh podcast

2937
01:41:59,189 --> 01:41:57,600
yeah it was recently that i was told

2938
01:42:01,669 --> 01:41:59,199
that he is not allowed to speak to the

2939
01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:01,679
media maybe it's a bunch of horseshit i

2940
01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:03,360
don't know i'm not saying hey i have

2941
01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:04,480
inside god

2942
01:42:09,430 --> 01:42:07,119
who knows all we know is that elizondo's

2943
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:09,440
been taken out of the limelight was he

2944
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:11,920
taken out because he was being attacked

2945
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:15,040
in the media and attacked on twitter was

2946
01:42:19,430 --> 01:42:17,199
that on his own

2947
01:42:21,109 --> 01:42:19,440
judgment did he do that himself or was

2948
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:21,119
he told not to

2949
01:42:24,629 --> 01:42:22,719
and

2950
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:24,639
we'll see like we'll see like come

2951
01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:28,719
october november like if he jumps into a

2952
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:30,400
bunch of podcasts if that was real or

2953
01:42:34,229 --> 01:42:33,119
not yeah we'll see um somebody says go

2954
01:42:35,910 --> 01:42:34,239
wait five years and they said i don't

2955
01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:35,920
get that comment it's unhelpful because

2956
01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:37,280
people were getting

2957
01:42:40,229 --> 01:42:38,800
people were it was somebody was

2958
01:42:42,149 --> 01:42:40,239
criticizing something and complaining

2959
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:42,159
it's like he's he's said it i've said it

2960
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:42,960
i mean

2961
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:44,320
people have to have patience i'm sorry

2962
01:42:47,510 --> 01:42:45,600
it's just not going to happen as fast as

2963
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:47,520
we want it's just not people think oh

2964
01:42:49,990 --> 01:42:48,800
we're hearing here we go they're going

2965
01:42:51,990 --> 01:42:50,000
to show us everything it's going to

2966
01:42:54,629 --> 01:42:52,000
happen no it never does it's slow it's

2967
01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:54,639
slow it's slow so people got to get used

2968
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:55,760
to that and we should i should keep

2969
01:43:03,270 --> 01:43:00,950
so by and large our models slash

2970
01:43:06,470 --> 01:43:03,280
hypotheses are relatively circumscribed

2971
01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:06,480
as stated as an entry to

2972
01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:08,080
this is page

2973
01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:11,040
5 or 6 of 16 my eyes i need glasses i

2974
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:12,560
stated in entry to above although

2975
01:43:18,149 --> 01:43:16,159
interested and entry two is

2976
01:43:19,750 --> 01:43:18,159
maybe it's just that although interested

2977
01:43:21,189 --> 01:43:19,760
parties tend to be proponents of what

2978
01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:21,199
would appear to be a wide range of

2979
01:43:25,510 --> 01:43:23,840
hypotheses parentheses ranging from it's

2980
01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:25,520
all psychological

2981
01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:28,080
check your dsm v what is that what's

2982
01:43:31,750 --> 01:43:29,520
dsmv

2983
01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:31,760
what the heck my idea

2984
01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:33,040
if i would have read it before but i

2985
01:43:37,109 --> 01:43:34,880
didn't have time anyway yeah neither

2986
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:37,119
that's read this before just fyi to

2987
01:43:39,669 --> 01:43:38,800
everybody listening we haven't read this

2988
01:43:41,830 --> 01:43:39,679
before

2989
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:41,840
and i will put it on my on my site and

2990
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:43,840
then link to all the questions all the

2991
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:45,280
stuff that they reference which i love

2992
01:43:49,109 --> 01:43:47,760
putting hot links um but it says

2993
01:43:50,550 --> 01:43:49,119
all interested although interested

2994
01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:50,560
parties tend to be proponents of what

2995
01:43:54,310 --> 01:43:51,840
would appear to be a wide range of

2996
01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:54,320
hypotheses

2997
01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:56,560
interdimensional slash time travels and

2998
01:44:01,510 --> 01:43:59,040
angels to graze an advanced spacecraft

2999
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:01,520
from zeta reticuli there are additional

3000
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:04,000
options that though mentioned in passing

3001
01:44:07,030 --> 01:44:05,440
in the literature

3002
01:44:10,149 --> 01:44:07,040
are not taken very seriously and

3003
01:44:12,629 --> 01:44:10,159
therefore go relatively unresearched

3004
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:12,639
these include such categories as

3005
01:44:16,870 --> 01:44:15,280
a hidden community of et's slash

3006
01:44:18,709 --> 01:44:16,880
quote-unquote gods

3007
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:18,719
possibly stranded here

3008
01:44:22,709 --> 01:44:20,800
by the way i have i have heard the

3009
01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:22,719
stranded stuck here

3010
01:44:29,030 --> 01:44:26,400
aka jen aka look at the book of enoch

3011
01:44:31,430 --> 01:44:29,040
and look at the old testament

3012
01:44:32,870 --> 01:44:31,440
when i heard it was something related to

3013
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:32,880
it was more related to something

3014
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:35,440
magnetic grid wise but who the hell

3015
01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:36,400
knows

3016
01:44:41,510 --> 01:44:38,480
privately and it's not wasn't like a

3017
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:41,520
a top source of mine um

3018
01:44:45,189 --> 01:44:43,199
these include such categories as hidden

3019
01:44:47,350 --> 01:44:45,199
community et's slash gods possibly

3020
01:44:49,030 --> 01:44:47,360
stranded here millennia ago allah

3021
01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:49,040
zechariah sitchin's earth chronicles

3022
01:44:53,830 --> 01:44:50,800
which i think you read that i know you

3023
01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:53,840
read a couple of those books as i did

3024
01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:56,159
series isolated remnants of a pre

3025
01:45:01,270 --> 01:44:58,880
delivio high-tech society the atlantis

3026
01:45:03,350 --> 01:45:01,280
myth or an ancient occult group who

3027
01:45:05,270 --> 01:45:03,360
happened to stumble on new energy

3028
01:45:07,990 --> 01:45:05,280
sources and control of gravity including

3029
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:08,000
a post world war ii covert

3030
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:10,719
cabal of the military industrial complex

3031
01:45:16,629 --> 01:45:13,920
variety dolan's breaking all right

3032
01:45:18,870 --> 01:45:16,639
i have to jump in we consider some of

3033
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:18,880
these options in more detail below

3034
01:45:25,030 --> 01:45:21,840
go ahead this is something that um

3035
01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:25,040
people who demonize and

3036
01:45:29,030 --> 01:45:27,920
have villainized morin he has actually

3037
01:45:30,470 --> 01:45:29,040
taken

3038
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:30,480
everything that you just read into

3039
01:45:35,430 --> 01:45:33,679
consideration and he is doing extensive

3040
01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:35,440
research on it

3041
01:45:39,990 --> 01:45:38,719
in regards to plasma in regards to the

3042
01:45:42,470 --> 01:45:40,000
fact that

3043
01:45:43,270 --> 01:45:42,480
there are microbes

3044
01:45:46,629 --> 01:45:43,280
my

3045
01:45:49,189 --> 01:45:46,639
he told me that microbes

3046
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:49,199
basically they're the oldest

3047
01:45:54,149 --> 01:45:50,639
form

3048
01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:54,159
of anything living on our earth

3049
01:45:59,189 --> 01:45:56,080
and may tie in

3050
01:46:00,790 --> 01:45:59,199
to everything that you just stated from

3051
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:00,800
this

3052
01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:03,600
paper that hal put off wrote

3053
01:46:06,629 --> 01:46:05,199
and you have somebody that's looking

3054
01:46:10,070 --> 01:46:06,639
into this

3055
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:10,080
and he's been basically excommunicated

3056
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:12,960
from the community and saying that he's

3057
01:46:18,390 --> 01:46:15,920
a skeptic oh he's this he's that he's

3058
01:46:23,510 --> 01:46:18,400
one of our brightest minds

3059
01:46:24,310 --> 01:46:23,520
and he's been looking into this and he

3060
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:24,320
has

3061
01:46:30,310 --> 01:46:26,880
told me theories

3062
01:46:32,229 --> 01:46:30,320
that are that makes so much sense and

3063
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:32,239
that's one of the reasons why i was so

3064
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:35,360
pissed off that he was just kicked out

3065
01:46:40,149 --> 01:46:37,600
people should listen to what he's saying

3066
01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:40,159
right now uh regardless of whatever

3067
01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:43,119
[\h__\h] accounts he had four years ago

3068
01:46:49,669 --> 01:46:47,520
he is actually doing wonderful work in

3069
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:49,679
everything that hal put off just said in

3070
01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:50,880
this paper

3071
01:46:54,709 --> 01:46:53,199
so continue

3072
01:46:56,229 --> 01:46:54,719
yeah um

3073
01:46:58,149 --> 01:46:56,239
i don't want to go down that road right

3074
01:46:59,590 --> 01:46:58,159
now because if we do it we'll never get

3075
01:47:01,910 --> 01:46:59,600
back to this paper i

3076
01:47:03,910 --> 01:47:01,920
i have issues with what you said but

3077
01:47:07,430 --> 01:47:03,920
let's let me keep reading somebody by

3078
01:47:09,669 --> 01:47:07,440
the way the dsm v

3079
01:47:12,070 --> 01:47:09,679
is danny silva texted me too it's the

3080
01:47:14,470 --> 01:47:12,080
diagnosis diagnostic and statistical

3081
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:14,480
manual of mental disorders basically you

3082
01:47:18,629 --> 01:47:16,719
know it's all in your head you're crazy

3083
01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:18,639
which we heard for so long and still

3084
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:20,080
people i'm sure some people still think

3085
01:47:22,709 --> 01:47:20,960
that

3086
01:47:24,709 --> 01:47:22,719
um

3087
01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:24,719
why the heck is it not moving there we

3088
01:47:27,270 --> 01:47:26,080
go

3089
01:47:29,510 --> 01:47:27,280
oh

3090
01:47:31,750 --> 01:47:29,520
analysis speculation not forensics

3091
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:31,760
constitutes the present core modus

3092
01:47:35,910 --> 01:47:34,000
operandi as the various hypotheses are

3093
01:47:38,790 --> 01:47:35,920
generated and pursued hypothesis

3094
01:47:40,709 --> 01:47:38,800
generation and data are gathered

3095
01:47:43,189 --> 01:47:40,719
considerable intellectual effort goes

3096
01:47:45,189 --> 01:47:43,199
into attempting a fit between the two

3097
01:47:46,950 --> 01:47:45,199
hypothesis testing

3098
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:46,960
this is certainly a healthy activity

3099
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:48,960
deriving as it does from the instinctive

3100
01:47:52,870 --> 01:47:50,880
and productive human urge to reduce

3101
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:52,880
ambiguity in interpreting one's

3102
01:47:56,790 --> 01:47:55,040
surroundings however this approach could

3103
01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:56,800
profit by incorporating elements of a

3104
01:48:01,910 --> 01:47:59,360
more forensic gumshoe style as in

3105
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:01,920
criminalistics and intelligence work

3106
01:48:05,430 --> 01:48:03,600
we need all those people to figure this

3107
01:48:07,669 --> 01:48:05,440
out the very fact that so many

3108
01:48:09,669 --> 01:48:07,679
hypotheses remain on the table

3109
01:48:11,590 --> 01:48:09,679
regarding the source of the phenomenon

3110
01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:11,600
clearly indicates that forensic work to

3111
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:13,360
date has been inadequate to even

3112
01:48:18,310 --> 01:48:15,520
eliminate certain options

3113
01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:18,320
hypotheses elimination all three forms

3114
01:48:23,750 --> 01:48:21,520
of hypotheses handle hypothesis handling

3115
01:48:26,550 --> 01:48:23,760
are required yeah well i don't know when

3116
01:48:28,229 --> 01:48:26,560
he wrote this paper exactly but

3117
01:48:30,310 --> 01:48:28,239
nobody is interested in the science

3118
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:30,320
world as far as you know a large

3119
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:32,239
percentage of scientists so that until

3120
01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:33,360
that changes i don't think we're going

3121
01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:34,960
to make progress in figuring this out

3122
01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:36,480
unless somebody has figured it out

3123
01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:39,040
partially behind the scenes

3124
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:40,960
in the black programs strategy for

3125
01:48:44,390 --> 01:48:42,960
forward motion given the tenor of the

3126
01:48:46,629 --> 01:48:44,400
above remarks the following

3127
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,639
recommendations are offered as proactive

3128
01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:49,199
measures to make headway specifically it

3129
01:48:55,590 --> 01:48:51,280
would behoove us to set aside our

3130
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:55,600
tentativeness about any given hypothesis

3131
01:48:58,950 --> 01:48:57,040
place it on the table and almost

3132
01:49:01,189 --> 01:48:58,960
certainly true and go for it with an

3133
01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:01,199
aggressive forensic mindset consider the

3134
01:49:05,350 --> 01:49:03,199
following disparate hypothetical

3135
01:49:07,109 --> 01:49:05,360
examples of the type outlined in entry 2

3136
01:49:09,350 --> 01:49:07,119
in the abstract

3137
01:49:11,990 --> 01:49:09,360
extraterrestrial hypotheses

3138
01:49:13,910 --> 01:49:12,000
hypothesis in this scenario crash slash

3139
01:49:16,229 --> 01:49:13,920
retrievals of nuts and bolts alien

3140
01:49:17,990 --> 01:49:16,239
hardware have occurred

3141
01:49:19,750 --> 01:49:18,000
the detritus of which has been

3142
01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:19,760
distributed in the u.s to corporate

3143
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:23,440
america the colonel corso scenario

3144
01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:24,960
setting aside the specific claims of

3145
01:49:28,709 --> 01:49:27,119
corso if such is the case certain

3146
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:28,719
telltale signatures

3147
01:49:32,470 --> 01:49:30,800
should emerge under scrutiny moreover

3148
01:49:34,870 --> 01:49:32,480
some evidence indicates this could be

3149
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:34,880
the case these would include a certain

3150
01:49:38,470 --> 01:49:37,440
level of relatively low profile positive

3151
01:49:40,790 --> 01:49:38,480
possibly

3152
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:40,800
statement influenced integrated

3153
01:49:45,189 --> 01:49:42,880
investment control of a select set of

3154
01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:45,199
global multinational corporations which

3155
01:49:49,109 --> 01:49:47,040
i think de long has written about in his

3156
01:49:51,430 --> 01:49:49,119
fiction books with convergent

3157
01:49:53,589 --> 01:49:51,440
interlocking technology developments

3158
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:53,599
example aerospace and electronics

3159
01:49:56,390 --> 01:49:54,880
corporations

3160
01:49:59,589 --> 01:49:56,400
i think that

3161
01:50:01,990 --> 01:49:59,599
second because you're skipping over a

3162
01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:02,000
lot of things um he just

3163
01:50:08,310 --> 01:50:04,880
indicated that you know we have made

3164
01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:08,320
possible advancements in technology

3165
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:09,119
um

3166
01:50:12,629 --> 01:50:10,800
and

3167
01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:12,639
going back to

3168
01:50:16,709 --> 01:50:14,880
i mean he's he's like pretty much

3169
01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:16,719
covering

3170
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:19,119
every hypothesis in this paper as far as

3171
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:20,320
what i can see

3172
01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:22,960
right so he's not like discrediting

3173
01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:25,360
anything so he's basically saying hey

3174
01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:27,280
all of you guys out there on ufo twitter

3175
01:50:31,990 --> 01:50:29,679
who are fighting who are cutting each

3176
01:50:33,990 --> 01:50:32,000
other up who are going at it tooth and

3177
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:34,000
nail like

3178
01:50:37,669 --> 01:50:35,679
consider everything

3179
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:37,679
because we haven't eliminated anything

3180
01:50:40,229 --> 01:50:38,480
yet

3181
01:50:41,589 --> 01:50:40,239
no in his lecture he did in virginia he

3182
01:50:43,030 --> 01:50:41,599
even said he goes we don't see evidence

3183
01:50:44,390 --> 01:50:43,040
that we've cracked gravity or anything

3184
01:50:46,229 --> 01:50:44,400
like that he goes but we can't rule it

3185
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:46,239
out cannot possibly rule it out you

3186
01:50:51,589 --> 01:50:47,840
would think we would see some signs of

3187
01:50:52,870 --> 01:50:51,599
it um but cannot rule it out and i don't

3188
01:50:55,189 --> 01:50:52,880
care if people have a problem with that

3189
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:55,199
i mean i don't have it high on the list

3190
01:50:58,709 --> 01:50:56,880
i just don't know i mean i'm totally

3191
01:51:00,149 --> 01:50:58,719
open to it and a lot of people get upset

3192
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:00,159
about that but

3193
01:51:04,229 --> 01:51:02,800
so i mean what are you gonna do i mean

3194
01:51:05,990 --> 01:51:04,239
like you said some people do want it to

3195
01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:06,000
be aliens i just want it to be whatever

3196
01:51:09,350 --> 01:51:08,080
it is i mean it's interesting definitely

3197
01:51:10,950 --> 01:51:09,360
if there's something non-human here

3198
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:10,960
which i do think is happening but what

3199
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:13,040
else anything else that uh

3200
01:51:17,910 --> 01:51:14,880
that jumped out there

3201
01:51:20,629 --> 01:51:17,920
no he's just basically covering um every

3202
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:20,639
angle which i support and you know i've

3203
01:51:26,390 --> 01:51:24,320
been critical of how put off on certain

3204
01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:26,400
aspects like he's one of those names

3205
01:51:33,750 --> 01:51:30,880
that is absolutely a core person

3206
01:51:35,669 --> 01:51:33,760
if you are interested in ufos you need

3207
01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:35,679
to research how put off and everything

3208
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:37,599
that he has done for

3209
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:38,960
decades

3210
01:51:44,709 --> 01:51:41,520
i mean he is basically why we're talking

3211
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:44,719
right now so uh go back and

3212
01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:46,560
look him up and actually do some

3213
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:48,639
research on him and i

3214
01:51:51,510 --> 01:51:49,840
so far

3215
01:51:53,669 --> 01:51:51,520
i don't have anything critical of the

3216
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:53,679
paper he's covering everything so go

3217
01:51:57,910 --> 01:51:56,400
ahead yeah he's he's one of the few

3218
01:51:59,350 --> 01:51:57,920
scientists and i've told you this before

3219
01:52:00,870 --> 01:51:59,360
other people say why is it the same

3220
01:52:02,550 --> 01:52:00,880
people over and over it's because not a

3221
01:52:04,070 --> 01:52:02,560
lot of people are willing to put their

3222
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:04,080
their reputation on the line and talk

3223
01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:05,440
about this stuff especially openly i

3224
01:52:09,350 --> 01:52:07,440
mean he was so instrumental in the

3225
01:52:10,229 --> 01:52:09,360
remote viewing program coming together

3226
01:52:11,510 --> 01:52:10,239
um

3227
01:52:16,629 --> 01:52:11,520
hopefully

3228
01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:16,639
just just a a waterfall just a a tidal

3229
01:52:19,430 --> 01:52:18,000
wave of scientists saying you know what

3230
01:52:20,950 --> 01:52:19,440
because gary nolan says there are people

3231
01:52:22,229 --> 01:52:20,960
coming to him saying

3232
01:52:24,070 --> 01:52:22,239
you know i'm interested in this now

3233
01:52:26,229 --> 01:52:24,080
let's talk about it if and if that keeps

3234
01:52:28,390 --> 01:52:26,239
happening that's going to be great

3235
01:52:30,629 --> 01:52:28,400
if biological specimens have been

3236
01:52:33,430 --> 01:52:30,639
retrieved the development of unusual

3237
01:52:35,510 --> 01:52:33,440
lines of biological slash genetic

3238
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:35,520
inquiry by highly qualified

3239
01:52:39,589 --> 01:52:37,199
professionals whose career path would

3240
01:52:40,470 --> 01:52:39,599
seem to diverge suddenly from what might

3241
01:52:41,430 --> 01:52:40,480
have been

3242
01:52:43,830 --> 01:52:41,440
extra

3243
01:52:46,070 --> 01:52:43,840
extr oh

3244
01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:46,080
extrapolated

3245
01:52:49,990 --> 01:52:47,520
man i'm getting tired i'm sorry and this

3246
01:52:52,470 --> 01:52:50,000
is where richard dodie comes into play

3247
01:52:55,669 --> 01:52:52,480
because he is constantly saying and he

3248
01:52:57,109 --> 01:52:55,679
said even recently in podcast that there

3249
01:53:00,870 --> 01:52:57,119
was an alien

3250
01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:00,880
from uh area 51 that escaped and he was

3251
01:53:05,589 --> 01:53:03,520
shot and pronounced yeah well i'm not

3252
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:05,599
sure if it was j-rod but he was there

3253
01:53:10,070 --> 01:53:07,520
was an uh e.t

3254
01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:10,080
biological entity that was

3255
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:14,000
at area 51 that escaped that uh

3256
01:53:19,270 --> 01:53:17,520
was killed and he was buried under a

3257
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:19,280
he said he was buried under a road at

3258
01:53:23,669 --> 01:53:21,520
area 51 which makes absolutely no

3259
01:53:24,550 --> 01:53:23,679
[\h__\h] sense to me whatsoever

3260
01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:24,560
but

3261
01:53:28,310 --> 01:53:26,320
it's one of those things that you see

3262
01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:28,320
people who are still who have been part

3263
01:53:32,470 --> 01:53:29,840
of this community

3264
01:53:33,990 --> 01:53:32,480
uh sowing uh discord and

3265
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:34,000
counterintelligence from like the

3266
01:53:39,189 --> 01:53:36,400
beginning where they haven't let up even

3267
01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:39,199
after richard dodie come out saying hey

3268
01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:40,800
i did this to

3269
01:53:45,589 --> 01:53:42,560
benowitz

3270
01:53:47,910 --> 01:53:45,599
and i feel so terribly sorry for that he

3271
01:53:50,070 --> 01:53:47,920
is still saying these stories so are

3272
01:53:52,790 --> 01:53:50,080
they stories are they real i don't think

3273
01:53:54,550 --> 01:53:52,800
anybody can say anything other than you

3274
01:53:57,030 --> 01:53:54,560
know do you not think that congress

3275
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:57,040
would know by now if that were true

3276
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:58,560
yeah supposedly he's had meetings in

3277
01:54:02,629 --> 01:54:00,560
congress but like you said i said other

3278
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:02,639
people have said put dodie under oath

3279
01:54:06,550 --> 01:54:04,800
for

3280
01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:06,560
you know if he lies and gets caught

3281
01:54:11,109 --> 01:54:09,520
making up stuff you know prosecuting for

3282
01:54:12,550 --> 01:54:11,119
the problem is you know prosecuting for

3283
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:12,560
perjury but the problem is it's really

3284
01:54:17,030 --> 01:54:14,960
if if he tells a story how do you prove

3285
01:54:20,149 --> 01:54:17,040
it's not true it's like impossible it's

3286
01:54:22,790 --> 01:54:20,159
hard to prove if you're paid to do that

3287
01:54:25,109 --> 01:54:22,800
by the united states government and part

3288
01:54:27,430 --> 01:54:25,119
of your oath is to not ever

3289
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,440
disclose that under any circumstance

3290
01:54:31,830 --> 01:54:29,840
even under oath then of course he's

3291
01:54:33,430 --> 01:54:31,840
still going to continue to say the same

3292
01:54:35,430 --> 01:54:33,440
things he could go in front of congress

3293
01:54:38,149 --> 01:54:35,440
and say the same stories

3294
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:38,159
uh if that's his job and he has some

3295
01:54:42,070 --> 01:54:39,280
sort of

3296
01:54:44,470 --> 01:54:42,080
special pass to do so it doesn't matter

3297
01:54:46,310 --> 01:54:44,480
if richard doty or any other

3298
01:54:47,990 --> 01:54:46,320
counterintelligence is under oath

3299
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:48,000
because it's to protect our national

3300
01:54:53,430 --> 01:54:50,080
security and that's what we have always

3301
01:54:56,229 --> 01:54:53,440
relied on is national security it's

3302
01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:56,239
one of those catch 22s i'm not going to

3303
01:55:00,870 --> 01:54:58,560
have a legal system to lie to congress i

3304
01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:00,880
don't think they have it it kind of does

3305
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:07,830
are there examples of people who have

3306
01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:09,440
lied to congress and later on said yeah

3307
01:55:12,870 --> 01:55:11,199
i was allowed because this right i mean

3308
01:55:15,830 --> 01:55:12,880
how many people have come before

3309
01:55:18,070 --> 01:55:15,840
congress to talk about aliens like i'm

3310
01:55:20,790 --> 01:55:18,080
sure that there are other examples like

3311
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:20,800
look at the jfk thing i mean nobody can

3312
01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:24,800
actually come out and if they're told by

3313
01:55:28,229 --> 01:55:26,719
certain facets of our government that

3314
01:55:30,470 --> 01:55:28,239
hey if you do this under any

3315
01:55:33,350 --> 01:55:30,480
circumstance even to congress you will

3316
01:55:35,510 --> 01:55:33,360
be prosecuted yeah absolutely it's one

3317
01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:35,520
of those catch-22s like i said like

3318
01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:37,840
there's no way out of it like somebody

3319
01:55:41,990 --> 01:55:40,560
could sit here in your face even up to

3320
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:42,000
the president hell we know the

3321
01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:44,239
presidents have been kept out of this

3322
01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:47,760
we know that so many look at um carter

3323
01:55:52,390 --> 01:55:50,159
look at clinton so many presidents have

3324
01:55:55,669 --> 01:55:52,400
looked into this and they still have not

3325
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:55,679
been granted access to everything that's

3326
01:55:59,910 --> 01:55:57,920
going on that's for a reason and that's

3327
01:56:01,990 --> 01:55:59,920
one of the things that we have that's

3328
01:56:03,910 --> 01:56:02,000
kind of messed up

3329
01:56:06,870 --> 01:56:03,920
in the united states government and our

3330
01:56:08,390 --> 01:56:06,880
laws like we there's no way to pull that

3331
01:56:10,550 --> 01:56:08,400
out

3332
01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:10,560
yeah that's why i and by the way um i

3333
01:56:13,669 --> 01:56:11,920
don't know if that's the real richard

3334
01:56:15,350 --> 01:56:13,679
dodie on twitter i will find out i mean

3335
01:56:16,709 --> 01:56:15,360
i've communicated with dodie i've met

3336
01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:16,719
him

3337
01:56:24,149 --> 01:56:20,560
as a source for anything although i was

3338
01:56:25,910 --> 01:56:24,159
accused of that um but

3339
01:56:27,270 --> 01:56:25,920
you know that was a question i asked i

3340
01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:27,280
called into will miller being

3341
01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:29,360
interviewed in 2000 and will how do we

3342
01:56:33,189 --> 01:56:31,679
get access to these programs 22 years

3343
01:56:34,950 --> 01:56:33,199
later we still don't have access at

3344
01:56:37,830 --> 01:56:34,960
least we have congress trying whether or

3345
01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:37,840
not they'll succeed i don't know yeah

3346
01:56:41,510 --> 01:56:39,840
they can try tooth and nail but they're

3347
01:56:43,910 --> 01:56:41,520
never going to get access to something

3348
01:56:46,070 --> 01:56:43,920
that we will not grant them access to

3349
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:46,080
even if the wilson davis documents are

3350
01:56:48,310 --> 01:56:47,199
100

3351
01:56:51,510 --> 01:56:48,320
real

3352
01:56:54,149 --> 01:56:51,520
if we want to hide that that's our

3353
01:56:56,229 --> 01:56:54,159
prerogative under national security we

3354
01:56:58,629 --> 01:56:56,239
have that right it's never going to come

3355
01:57:01,189 --> 01:56:58,639
out and that's one of those things that

3356
01:57:03,189 --> 01:57:01,199
it's so terribly difficult

3357
01:57:05,750 --> 01:57:03,199
i need michael vida to weigh in we'll do

3358
01:57:06,950 --> 01:57:05,760
a show at michael on where you know you

3359
01:57:09,030 --> 01:57:06,960
know more about certain things that i

3360
01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:09,040
don't know the legalities of that but

3361
01:57:12,629 --> 01:57:11,280
we'll get back to that with him um let

3362
01:57:14,870 --> 01:57:12,639
me keep reading

3363
01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:14,880
because my leg is falling asleep sitting

3364
01:57:18,390 --> 01:57:16,719
like this um

3365
01:57:20,709 --> 01:57:18,400
if biological specimens have been

3366
01:57:23,189 --> 01:57:20,719
retrieved the development of unusual

3367
01:57:24,629 --> 01:57:23,199
lines of biological genetic inquiry by

3368
01:57:26,629 --> 01:57:24,639
highly qualified professionals whose

3369
01:57:29,030 --> 01:57:26,639
career path would seem to diverge

3370
01:57:31,109 --> 01:57:29,040
suddenly from what might have been

3371
01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:31,119
extrapolated from their earlier work

3372
01:57:34,790 --> 01:57:33,199
example accelerated research into

3373
01:57:37,189 --> 01:57:34,800
retroviruses

3374
01:57:39,669 --> 01:57:37,199
sudden initiation in the late 40s or

3375
01:57:42,070 --> 01:57:39,679
early 50s without clear precedence

3376
01:57:44,790 --> 01:57:42,080
and in unknown ufo-related research

3377
01:57:46,709 --> 01:57:44,800
institutes example mattel of

3378
01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:46,719
concentrated development of new

3379
01:57:51,589 --> 01:57:48,880
high-strength high-temperature

3380
01:57:53,750 --> 01:57:51,599
low-density intermetallic alloys funding

3381
01:57:55,430 --> 01:57:53,760
by funded by near by government

3382
01:57:58,550 --> 01:57:55,440
facilities such as right patterson air

3383
01:58:00,070 --> 01:57:58,560
force base example nitinol so basically

3384
01:58:01,830 --> 01:58:00,080
saying these would be hints that we you

3385
01:58:03,589 --> 01:58:01,840
know we had some sort of breakthrough

3386
01:58:05,750 --> 01:58:03,599
with genetics on something new or

3387
01:58:07,669 --> 01:58:05,760
something metallic from some craft maybe

3388
01:58:09,990 --> 01:58:07,679
it would bleed into this amazing

3389
01:58:12,229 --> 01:58:10,000
technology you would start seeing that

3390
01:58:14,629 --> 01:58:12,239
uh you'd see it maybe the accelerated

3391
01:58:17,270 --> 01:58:14,639
development of geopolitical alliances

3392
01:58:21,510 --> 01:58:17,280
space weaponry et cetera according to

3393
01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:21,520
coffee genetics back to the nazis

3394
01:58:24,470 --> 01:58:23,280
that's all i'm going to say

3395
01:58:26,550 --> 01:58:24,480
all right

3396
01:58:28,550 --> 01:58:26,560
um go along i've talked about how you

3397
01:58:29,910 --> 01:58:28,560
know we've worked with our our

3398
01:58:32,149 --> 01:58:29,920
adversaries

3399
01:58:34,470 --> 01:58:32,159
um to work on this problem and i've

3400
01:58:36,310 --> 01:58:34,480
heard that from somebody else before so

3401
01:58:37,589 --> 01:58:36,320
it would make sense if we really felt it

3402
01:58:40,149 --> 01:58:37,599
was a threat

3403
01:58:41,669 --> 01:58:40,159
um to work with our even with our

3404
01:58:43,189 --> 01:58:41,679
adversaries to try to figure out what

3405
01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:43,199
the heck is going on and maybe stop them

3406
01:58:45,830 --> 01:58:44,320
and i know a lot of people think that's

3407
01:58:47,189 --> 01:58:45,840
a threat narrative i don't know what's

3408
01:58:49,669 --> 01:58:47,199
going on maybe it's not a threat i have

3409
01:58:52,149 --> 01:58:49,679
no idea the accelerated development of

3410
01:58:56,229 --> 01:58:52,159
geopolitical alliances space weaponry

3411
01:58:58,470 --> 01:58:56,239
etc for reasons not wholly interpretable

3412
01:58:59,669 --> 01:58:58,480
in terms of national interest agendas

3413
01:59:03,350 --> 01:58:59,679
example

3414
01:59:05,510 --> 01:59:03,360
star wars sdi u.s space force

3415
01:59:08,390 --> 01:59:05,520
evidence for covert manipulation of the

3416
01:59:11,830 --> 01:59:08,400
ufo et theme in the public sector by

3417
01:59:13,669 --> 01:59:11,840
governmental entities example cia's 1953

3418
01:59:15,350 --> 01:59:13,679
robertson's panel where they basically

3419
01:59:19,109 --> 01:59:15,360
said let's

3420
01:59:21,430 --> 01:59:19,119
make ufo people not credible anymore

3421
01:59:23,350 --> 01:59:21,440
make sure that

3422
01:59:24,390 --> 01:59:23,360
the reasoning for one reason well i

3423
01:59:26,310 --> 01:59:24,400
won't get into the whole thing the

3424
01:59:27,910 --> 01:59:26,320
reason it was gonna clog up our channels

3425
01:59:29,669 --> 01:59:27,920
of communication which

3426
01:59:31,830 --> 01:59:29,679
semivan said was a very

3427
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:31,840
very valid concern at the time although

3428
01:59:34,229 --> 01:59:33,440
he doesn't agree with a lot of what they

3429
01:59:36,870 --> 01:59:34,239
did

3430
01:59:39,350 --> 01:59:36,880
uh evidence for generally subrosa highly

3431
01:59:41,270 --> 01:59:39,360
classified programs addressing the uap

3432
01:59:43,990 --> 01:59:41,280
issue example as in the recently

3433
01:59:45,910 --> 01:59:44,000
revealed ossap a-tip programs which

3434
01:59:47,589 --> 01:59:45,920
hardly anybody knew about

3435
01:59:50,550 --> 01:59:47,599
um

3436
01:59:52,629 --> 01:59:50,560
what other programs are there you know

3437
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:52,639
privatize access to space example by

3438
01:59:57,189 --> 01:59:54,800
enterprises such as spacex bigelow

3439
01:59:59,109 --> 01:59:57,199
aerospace blue origin or threats to

3440
02:00:00,790 --> 01:59:59,119
national international international

3441
02:00:03,189 --> 02:00:00,800
security example the nation-state

3442
02:00:05,030 --> 02:00:03,199
terrorism might serve to simulate the

3443
02:00:06,310 --> 02:00:05,040
surfacing of certain technological

3444
02:00:08,390 --> 02:00:06,320
developments materials and an

3445
02:00:10,830 --> 02:00:08,400
accelerated rate and so on i'm not so

3446
02:00:12,229 --> 02:00:10,840
sure about that can i talk about

3447
02:00:13,990 --> 02:00:12,239
it yes

3448
02:00:15,270 --> 02:00:14,000
we break out that technology unless we

3449
02:00:16,629 --> 02:00:15,280
absolutely have to that's that's what

3450
02:00:19,189 --> 02:00:16,639
michael via thinks if we have the

3451
02:00:23,109 --> 02:00:19,199
technology and he thinks well

3452
02:00:24,550 --> 02:00:23,119
especially look at um

3453
02:00:26,550 --> 02:00:24,560
steve justice

3454
02:00:30,790 --> 02:00:26,560
look at ttsa

3455
02:00:31,990 --> 02:00:30,800
ttsa brought steve justice who left

3456
02:00:32,950 --> 02:00:32,000
a very

3457
02:00:35,350 --> 02:00:32,960
high

3458
02:00:37,669 --> 02:00:35,360
profile position

3459
02:00:39,750 --> 02:00:37,679
at lockheed martin and skunk works to

3460
02:00:42,070 --> 02:00:39,760
come work at ttsa

3461
02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:42,080
after this the entire

3462
02:00:46,229 --> 02:00:44,080
narrative has been

3463
02:00:48,070 --> 02:00:46,239
unfair bidding practices

3464
02:00:49,910 --> 02:00:48,080
okay there are contractors private

3465
02:00:51,910 --> 02:00:49,920
contractors trying to bring technology

3466
02:00:54,950 --> 02:00:51,920
out we can't get that technology out

3467
02:00:57,350 --> 02:00:54,960
because it's locked we have

3468
02:00:59,589 --> 02:00:57,360
hidden it the government doesn't i mean

3469
02:01:01,510 --> 02:00:59,599
certain assets of the government

3470
02:01:03,990 --> 02:01:01,520
have access to it

3471
02:01:06,870 --> 02:01:04,000
but there are other

3472
02:01:08,629 --> 02:01:06,880
private contractors who want the same

3473
02:01:10,149 --> 02:01:08,639
technology out

3474
02:01:11,589 --> 02:01:10,159
that's the whole thing that will that's

3475
02:01:13,510 --> 02:01:11,599
what we're dealing with now in my

3476
02:01:15,350 --> 02:01:13,520
opinion

3477
02:01:17,990 --> 02:01:15,360
gotta say allegedly though

3478
02:01:19,350 --> 02:01:18,000
well i mean allegedly luis elizondo and

3479
02:01:21,350 --> 02:01:19,360
danny sheehan

3480
02:01:22,870 --> 02:01:21,360
and so on and so forth if you're

3481
02:01:24,149 --> 02:01:22,880
questioning me you're questioning them

3482
02:01:25,109 --> 02:01:24,159
because they've said this over and over

3483
02:01:27,109 --> 02:01:25,119
again

3484
02:01:28,790 --> 02:01:27,119
there are unfair bidding practices

3485
02:01:30,790 --> 02:01:28,800
practices where these guys have been

3486
02:01:32,149 --> 02:01:30,800
given this technology and we know that

3487
02:01:34,550 --> 02:01:32,159
the government

3488
02:01:36,950 --> 02:01:34,560
they discover something

3489
02:01:38,709 --> 02:01:36,960
and they'll hand it off to certain

3490
02:01:40,229 --> 02:01:38,719
contractors and they'll say hey this is

3491
02:01:42,709 --> 02:01:40,239
what we have this is where the

3492
02:01:45,750 --> 02:01:42,719
compartmental compartmentalization comes

3493
02:01:49,189 --> 02:01:45,760
into play they'll say hey please take

3494
02:01:51,189 --> 02:01:49,199
this develop it uh let us know what you

3495
02:01:52,629 --> 02:01:51,199
know about it because they're more well

3496
02:01:57,589 --> 02:01:52,639
equipped

3497
02:02:01,350 --> 02:01:58,550
people

3498
02:02:04,390 --> 02:02:01,360
that they have hired and put into play

3499
02:02:05,589 --> 02:02:04,400
that our government does not that's why

3500
02:02:07,430 --> 02:02:05,599
we

3501
02:02:09,430 --> 02:02:07,440
who are you talking about

3502
02:02:11,750 --> 02:02:09,440
no i'm saying that's why let me finish

3503
02:02:14,470 --> 02:02:11,760
that's why we outsource these things to

3504
02:02:16,390 --> 02:02:14,480
private contractors because they are

3505
02:02:19,030 --> 02:02:16,400
better at it than the united states

3506
02:02:21,910 --> 02:02:19,040
government is so when tom delonge when

3507
02:02:24,149 --> 02:02:21,920
luis elizondo when a ttsa and everybody

3508
02:02:24,950 --> 02:02:24,159
turned over metamaterials

3509
02:02:27,510 --> 02:02:24,960
to

3510
02:02:29,189 --> 02:02:27,520
the united states army

3511
02:02:30,950 --> 02:02:29,199
under the you know there's a whole crowd

3512
02:02:32,950 --> 02:02:30,960
of thing that goes along with it

3513
02:02:34,390 --> 02:02:32,960
who did they give that to to study and

3514
02:02:35,350 --> 02:02:34,400
develop it

3515
02:02:39,430 --> 02:02:35,360
okay

3516
02:02:41,430 --> 02:02:39,440
over and over again though do you know

3517
02:02:43,109 --> 02:02:41,440
why they gave it up to somebody

3518
02:02:44,709 --> 02:02:43,119
but listen to me they have been they

3519
02:02:47,030 --> 02:02:44,719
have done that over and over and over

3520
02:02:49,669 --> 02:02:47,040
again that wasn't the first time

3521
02:02:50,629 --> 02:02:49,679
we have a crash retrieval program in

3522
02:02:51,990 --> 02:02:50,639
place

3523
02:02:55,589 --> 02:02:52,000
not only

3524
02:02:57,750 --> 02:02:55,599
for our technology but if we captured

3525
02:02:59,510 --> 02:02:57,760
something from another government or

3526
02:03:02,070 --> 02:02:59,520
another country say we captured some

3527
02:03:04,229 --> 02:03:02,080
chinese technology we will outsource it

3528
02:03:06,070 --> 02:03:04,239
to these contractors okay these

3529
02:03:07,510 --> 02:03:06,080
contractors development

3530
02:03:09,750 --> 02:03:07,520
they

3531
02:03:12,709 --> 02:03:09,760
have all access

3532
02:03:16,229 --> 02:03:12,719
to everything that they develop and back

3533
02:03:18,709 --> 02:03:16,239
engineer okay other contractors want ass

3534
02:03:20,390 --> 02:03:18,719
access to what

3535
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:20,400
those guys did

3536
02:03:24,229 --> 02:03:22,080
there's no way to pull that out there's

3537
02:03:26,950 --> 02:03:24,239
no way to legally pull that out

3538
02:03:28,709 --> 02:03:26,960
but by using the ufo

3539
02:03:31,830 --> 02:03:28,719
lou's talking about ufo technology what

3540
02:03:34,950 --> 02:03:31,840
he talks about just like but

3541
02:03:36,790 --> 02:03:34,960
he is using ufo technology as a crash

3542
02:03:39,350 --> 02:03:36,800
retrieval type program

3543
02:03:41,109 --> 02:03:39,360
unfair bidding practices but it's not

3544
02:03:43,510 --> 02:03:41,119
all

3545
02:03:47,189 --> 02:03:43,520
extraterrestrial technology there are

3546
02:03:49,830 --> 02:03:47,199
other technology that is embedded within

3547
02:03:52,149 --> 02:03:49,840
this that we want access to that other

3548
02:03:54,629 --> 02:03:52,159
contractors want access to that's the

3549
02:03:56,790 --> 02:03:54,639
main thing that's the main

3550
02:03:59,189 --> 02:03:56,800
issue behind every the disclosure

3551
02:04:01,589 --> 02:03:59,199
process everything that's going on now

3552
02:04:03,030 --> 02:04:01,599
ufo disclosure we may get some stuff

3553
02:04:04,709 --> 02:04:03,040
about aliens

3554
02:04:07,109 --> 02:04:04,719
in the process it's an interesting thing

3555
02:04:08,629 --> 02:04:07,119
no i mean it's a theory but it's also a

3556
02:04:11,589 --> 02:04:08,639
theory that's been stated over and over

3557
02:04:13,109 --> 02:04:11,599
again especially by luis elizondo if you

3558
02:04:14,790 --> 02:04:13,119
believe him and you believe what he's

3559
02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:14,800
saying and closure is about he does not

3560
02:04:18,629 --> 02:04:17,119
say that's what disclosure is about

3561
02:04:20,470 --> 02:04:18,639
he's saying that there are unfair

3562
02:04:22,709 --> 02:04:20,480
bidding practices because those

3563
02:04:23,990 --> 02:04:22,719
contractors have not a major reason for

3564
02:04:25,990 --> 02:04:24,000
disclosure if you listen to his

3565
02:04:28,790 --> 02:04:26,000
three-hour interviews it's a lot more

3566
02:04:31,589 --> 02:04:28,800
deeper than that i mean

3567
02:04:33,669 --> 02:04:31,599
what does he say he's focusing on ufos

3568
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:33,679
but he's saying that certain contractors

3569
02:04:39,589 --> 02:04:36,320
have been given access to technology

3570
02:04:41,189 --> 02:04:39,599
that we had recovered okay that small

3571
02:04:42,629 --> 02:04:41,199
part of his interviews though jess i

3572
02:04:44,310 --> 02:04:42,639
mean his interviews when he does three

3573
02:04:45,910 --> 02:04:44,320
hours if you listen to him this is so

3574
02:04:48,310 --> 02:04:45,920
much more than just

3575
02:04:50,950 --> 02:04:48,320
some aerospace company okay look at him

3576
02:04:52,950 --> 02:04:50,960
look at his lawyers

3577
02:04:54,470 --> 02:04:52,960
we got it back after the article i can't

3578
02:04:55,910 --> 02:04:54,480
do this all night

3579
02:04:58,790 --> 02:04:55,920
you want to get back to the article but

3580
02:05:00,790 --> 02:04:58,800
this is the main part of the article

3581
02:05:03,350 --> 02:05:00,800
joe this is the main part of everything

3582
02:05:05,510 --> 02:05:03,360
that's going on even his attorney who is

3583
02:05:07,750 --> 02:05:05,520
going to bat for him has said

3584
02:05:12,390 --> 02:05:07,760
this is what it's all about

3585
02:05:17,430 --> 02:05:15,430
well if it's ufo technology if it's

3586
02:05:20,229 --> 02:05:17,440
human technology it's all about the

3587
02:05:21,109 --> 02:05:20,239
technology

3588
02:05:22,310 --> 02:05:21,119
um

3589
02:05:25,270 --> 02:05:22,320
i was going to say something somebody

3590
02:05:28,790 --> 02:05:25,280
asked this woman who is this woman and

3591
02:05:30,629 --> 02:05:28,800
by the way this is jess jessica and she

3592
02:05:33,430 --> 02:05:30,639
is on

3593
02:05:34,950 --> 02:05:33,440
twitter that's her handle

3594
02:05:36,790 --> 02:05:34,960
if i said yo mama would that be

3595
02:05:39,350 --> 02:05:36,800
inappropriate

3596
02:05:41,030 --> 02:05:39,360
already i'm probably going to not be

3597
02:05:42,629 --> 02:05:41,040
able to i'm not going to get any ads on

3598
02:05:44,310 --> 02:05:42,639
this because you use the f-bomb so many

3599
02:05:46,629 --> 02:05:44,320
times but i think i might no i haven't

3600
02:05:48,870 --> 02:05:46,639
like maybe two or three go ahead it only

3601
02:05:53,510 --> 02:05:48,880
takes one um

3602
02:05:56,629 --> 02:05:54,709
somebody got bored that we were talking

3603
02:05:58,550 --> 02:05:56,639
too much sorry

3604
02:06:01,189 --> 02:05:58,560
i don't have a co-host very often but i

3605
02:06:02,870 --> 02:06:01,199
will a lot more valet told me on

3606
02:06:04,310 --> 02:06:02,880
multiple occasions he came out to the

3607
02:06:07,109 --> 02:06:04,320
same conclusion about linda molten house

3608
02:06:09,189 --> 02:06:07,119
sample that's her arts parts thing sorry

3609
02:06:10,790 --> 02:06:09,199
um

3610
02:06:12,149 --> 02:06:10,800
so we're talking about technology but i

3611
02:06:13,430 --> 02:06:12,159
can't talk about technology what the

3612
02:06:14,550 --> 02:06:13,440
hell joe

3613
02:06:16,069 --> 02:06:14,560
you could talk about

3614
02:06:18,069 --> 02:06:16,079
i just wanna i just want to go through

3615
02:06:19,510 --> 02:06:18,079
the paper um we can come back to this

3616
02:06:21,750 --> 02:06:19,520
just might take a note all right go

3617
02:06:23,750 --> 02:06:21,760
ahead finish up

3618
02:06:25,750 --> 02:06:23,760
we're at eight of 16.

3619
02:06:28,149 --> 02:06:25,760
we've got a long way to go and i'm not

3620
02:06:29,510 --> 02:06:28,159
comfortable holy mackerel

3621
02:06:30,950 --> 02:06:29,520
um

3622
02:06:32,390 --> 02:06:30,960
straighten your legs out and finish it

3623
02:06:34,950 --> 02:06:32,400
i'll be quiet

3624
02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:34,960
the isolated humans hypothesis an

3625
02:06:39,589 --> 02:06:37,360
isolated high-tech closed community of

3626
02:06:41,109 --> 02:06:39,599
humans with somewhat advanced scientific

3627
02:06:42,709 --> 02:06:41,119
knowledge

3628
02:06:45,589 --> 02:06:42,719
exists

3629
02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:45,599
apart from the known culture

3630
02:06:49,430 --> 02:06:47,440
telltale signatures might include

3631
02:06:51,350 --> 02:06:49,440
continuing observation of technology

3632
02:06:54,629 --> 02:06:51,360
only somewhat in advance of public

3633
02:06:56,709 --> 02:06:54,639
knowledge example the 1997 airships

3634
02:06:58,790 --> 02:06:56,719
which john keel in operation trojan

3635
02:07:01,910 --> 02:06:58,800
horse does a real excellent job of

3636
02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:01,920
covering the airship mystery of the late

3637
02:07:06,229 --> 02:07:03,520
1800s

3638
02:07:09,030 --> 02:07:06,239
unaccounted for missing financial assets

3639
02:07:11,510 --> 02:07:09,040
and industrial grade resources possibly

3640
02:07:13,990 --> 02:07:11,520
including individuals a parent covert

3641
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:14,000
apparent covert misdirection of society

3642
02:07:18,950 --> 02:07:16,400
in the absence of real evidence to

3643
02:07:20,709 --> 02:07:18,960
accept the likelihood of e.t presence

3644
02:07:23,030 --> 02:07:20,719
the relative lack of evidence of

3645
02:07:24,229 --> 02:07:23,040
extremely advanced sophistication of

3646
02:07:25,830 --> 02:07:24,239
hardware

3647
02:07:27,430 --> 02:07:25,840
the relative lack of evidence of

3648
02:07:29,750 --> 02:07:27,440
extremely advanced sophistication

3649
02:07:32,069 --> 02:07:29,760
sophistication of hardware i.e hardware

3650
02:07:33,750 --> 02:07:32,079
clearly beyond present day design and

3651
02:07:36,069 --> 02:07:33,760
manufacture

3652
02:07:38,550 --> 02:07:36,079
even conceptually

3653
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:38,560
the stranded or colonized et gods

3654
02:07:42,790 --> 02:07:40,560
hypothesis telltale signatures might

3655
02:07:44,950 --> 02:07:42,800
include evidence in myth for high-tech

3656
02:07:47,510 --> 02:07:44,960
interpretation of claimed devices beyond

3657
02:07:51,350 --> 02:07:47,520
human capability of the era to

3658
02:07:54,149 --> 02:07:51,360
manufacturer eg example nuclear-powered

3659
02:07:56,470 --> 02:07:54,159
algae production mana machine in

3660
02:07:58,709 --> 02:07:56,480
biblical times hard evidence for

3661
02:08:01,189 --> 02:07:58,719
isolated mountain bases

3662
02:08:05,270 --> 02:08:01,199
detectable by satellite signatures of

3663
02:08:07,510 --> 02:08:05,280
fast walker or uct uncorrelated target

3664
02:08:09,589 --> 02:08:07,520
flight paths or anomalous undersea

3665
02:08:11,589 --> 02:08:09,599
activity or base is detectable by

3666
02:08:13,510 --> 02:08:11,599
distributed underwater monitoring

3667
02:08:15,109 --> 02:08:13,520
systems and he talks about mountain

3668
02:08:17,109 --> 02:08:15,119
bases there's been remote viewing on

3669
02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:17,119
some alleged e.t bases but that was

3670
02:08:20,550 --> 02:08:18,480
never proven

3671
02:08:23,750 --> 02:08:20,560
feedback to just even know that that was

3672
02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:23,760
legitimate um and if they did exactly

3673
02:08:26,950 --> 02:08:25,760
they would have told us what

3674
02:08:28,390 --> 02:08:26,960
see there are so many things that i

3675
02:08:31,189 --> 02:08:28,400
could add to that but i've been told to

3676
02:08:33,270 --> 02:08:31,199
shut up in the chat so i will go ahead

3677
02:08:34,709 --> 02:08:33,280
you can we can just take notes just mark

3678
02:08:36,470 --> 02:08:34,719
some notes down and we can go back and

3679
02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:36,480
and if people once we get to the we talk

3680
02:08:38,870 --> 02:08:37,840
a little bit more after they can leave

3681
02:08:41,030 --> 02:08:38,880
if they want um

3682
02:08:42,790 --> 02:08:41,040
[Music]

3683
02:08:44,550 --> 02:08:42,800
flight paths or anomalous undersea

3684
02:08:47,189 --> 02:08:44,560
activity or bases detectable by

3685
02:08:50,069 --> 02:08:47,199
distributed underwater

3686
02:08:51,830 --> 02:08:50,079
monitoring systems covert elite group

3687
02:08:53,750 --> 02:08:51,840
exercising

3688
02:08:55,990 --> 02:08:53,760
occult slash religious influence in

3689
02:08:58,790 --> 02:08:56,000
society evidence for buried high-tech

3690
02:09:00,709 --> 02:08:58,800
artifacts or locales with unusual

3691
02:09:03,030 --> 02:09:00,719
signature radiation characteristics here

3692
02:09:04,470 --> 02:09:03,040
or off planet etc go ahead jump in i'm

3693
02:09:05,990 --> 02:09:04,480
sorry if people don't like it i don't

3694
02:09:07,350 --> 02:09:06,000
want to just read the thing straight

3695
02:09:09,109 --> 02:09:07,360
through without comment because if

3696
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:09,119
jessica wasn't here i would be doing the

3697
02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:10,159
same thing

3698
02:09:13,189 --> 02:09:11,440
but

3699
02:09:14,550 --> 02:09:13,199
i would probably be talking a lot less

3700
02:09:16,149 --> 02:09:14,560
because i don't know as much as she does

3701
02:09:17,750 --> 02:09:16,159
on a lot of stuff so jump in and what do

3702
02:09:22,470 --> 02:09:17,760
you want what did you want to say we're

3703
02:09:25,430 --> 02:09:23,910
no at this point

3704
02:09:27,510 --> 02:09:25,440
yeah i'm sorry at this point just keep

3705
02:09:30,069 --> 02:09:27,520
on reading we'll we'll go back to it at

3706
02:09:31,589 --> 02:09:30,079
the end okay

3707
02:09:33,430 --> 02:09:31,599
another theory the interdimensional or

3708
02:09:35,189 --> 02:09:33,440
time travelers hypothesis which is my

3709
02:09:37,910 --> 02:09:35,199
favorite gaining access to our

3710
02:09:39,830 --> 02:09:37,920
space-time continuum continuum

3711
02:09:41,830 --> 02:09:39,840
telltale signs might take the form of

3712
02:09:43,350 --> 02:09:41,840
fortian phenomena

3713
02:09:45,589 --> 02:09:43,360
of instant appearance slash

3714
02:09:46,550 --> 02:09:45,599
disappearance of beings in a reverse

3715
02:09:49,189 --> 02:09:46,560
process

3716
02:09:51,750 --> 02:09:49,199
humans experience portal access to

3717
02:09:54,310 --> 02:09:51,760
alternate route alternate alternate

3718
02:09:57,669 --> 02:09:54,320
realities appearance of beings out of

3719
02:10:00,470 --> 02:09:57,679
sync in dress mannerism or language or

3720
02:10:04,069 --> 02:10:00,480
technology similarly undecipherable

3721
02:10:06,069 --> 02:10:04,079
financial transaction timeline

3722
02:10:09,430 --> 02:10:06,079
or other futures

3723
02:10:11,669 --> 02:10:09,440
orientated oriented activity indic

3724
02:10:13,510 --> 02:10:11,679
indicative of advanced foreknowledge

3725
02:10:16,149 --> 02:10:13,520
evidence of for teleportation of

3726
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:16,159
individuals or material over geophysical

3727
02:10:20,950 --> 02:10:19,199
distances appearance of humanoids in

3728
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:20,960
conformance with predicted genetic

3729
02:10:24,629 --> 02:10:23,520
evolution of present day homo sapiens

3730
02:10:26,229 --> 02:10:24,639
etc

3731
02:10:28,310 --> 02:10:26,239
obviously in the above examples we have

3732
02:10:30,950 --> 02:10:28,320
a helter skelter montage of elements for

3733
02:10:32,390 --> 02:10:30,960
much of the mythology of claimed ufo

3734
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:32,400
experience and yeah i know people are

3735
02:10:35,830 --> 02:10:34,320
critical of this paper saying it's

3736
02:10:37,350 --> 02:10:35,840
throwing everything at the kitchen sink

3737
02:10:39,669 --> 02:10:37,360
and i understand the criticism because

3738
02:10:41,109 --> 02:10:39,679
it is throwing everything at the kitchen

3739
02:10:44,629 --> 02:10:41,119
sink and i hopefully they've narrowed

3740
02:10:47,030 --> 02:10:44,639
some of this down to something um

3741
02:10:49,030 --> 02:10:47,040
well like at this point everything needs

3742
02:10:49,830 --> 02:10:49,040
to be thrown if the government doesn't

3743
02:10:55,750 --> 02:10:49,840
know

3744
02:10:58,310 --> 02:10:55,760
uh connected as he is if he's if he's

3745
02:11:00,390 --> 02:10:58,320
writing this paper then that truly means

3746
02:11:01,910 --> 02:11:00,400
the government absolutely has no

3747
02:11:04,229 --> 02:11:01,920
freaking clue

3748
02:11:06,390 --> 02:11:04,239
uh what's going on still and they're

3749
02:11:07,910 --> 02:11:06,400
entertaining all of this other than you

3750
02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:07,920
know maybe he's putting out the puff

3751
02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:08,800
piece

3752
02:11:11,990 --> 02:11:10,000
i'm not sure if that's true or not

3753
02:11:13,830 --> 02:11:12,000
because i i don't think he has i mean he

3754
02:11:15,589 --> 02:11:13,840
may have the same type of information

3755
02:11:17,030 --> 02:11:15,599
that eric davis described where you talk

3756
02:11:17,990 --> 02:11:17,040
to people in these other programs but

3757
02:11:19,589 --> 02:11:18,000
they'll only give you certain

3758
02:11:21,750 --> 02:11:19,599
information unless you can get right in

3759
02:11:23,350 --> 02:11:21,760
then you'll get the full story so he may

3760
02:11:25,430 --> 02:11:23,360
not have the full story i mean kit green

3761
02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:25,440
talked about he was so close to getting

3762
02:11:29,830 --> 02:11:27,760
alleged access to the alleged top ufo

3763
02:11:31,510 --> 02:11:29,840
program and then it didn't happen on

3764
02:11:33,669 --> 02:11:31,520
several occasions so it either doesn't

3765
02:11:35,669 --> 02:11:33,679
exist or for some reason they don't like

3766
02:11:37,189 --> 02:11:35,679
kick green he was eating peanuts in the

3767
02:11:38,629 --> 02:11:37,199
in the lobby and he wasn't supposed to

3768
02:11:40,229 --> 02:11:38,639
and they said you know what

3769
02:11:42,550 --> 02:11:40,239
dr green we love those peanuts you ate

3770
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:42,560
the last one no access for you so i

3771
02:11:45,669 --> 02:11:44,320
don't know what happened

3772
02:11:47,109 --> 02:11:45,679
um

3773
02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:47,119
where i consider

3774
02:11:50,870 --> 02:11:48,880
we need to go with this

3775
02:11:53,669 --> 02:11:50,880
with it is this to shift away from a

3776
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:53,679
strategy that relies solely on further

3777
02:11:57,589 --> 02:11:55,360
content analysis towards what

3778
02:11:59,109 --> 02:11:57,599
intelligence world calls traffic

3779
02:12:01,350 --> 02:11:59,119
analysis

3780
02:12:02,470 --> 02:12:01,360
that is to first order independent of

3781
02:12:04,310 --> 02:12:02,480
contact

3782
02:12:08,629 --> 02:12:04,320
that is

3783
02:12:11,030 --> 02:12:08,639
while it's not easy this is not read

3784
02:12:13,030 --> 02:12:11,040
well for me i don't know about you that

3785
02:12:15,189 --> 02:12:13,040
is while not asking the present

3786
02:12:18,790 --> 02:12:15,199
strategies in place we incorporate into

3787
02:12:21,270 --> 02:12:18,800
our studies in an aggressive in as

3788
02:12:23,990 --> 02:12:21,280
aggressive and proactive away as we can

3789
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:24,000
muster more forensic work to expand our

3790
02:12:28,069 --> 02:12:26,000
playing field and extract the data and

3791
02:12:30,149 --> 02:12:28,079
it surrounds more of the patterns and

3792
02:12:31,910 --> 02:12:30,159
networks that appear to yoke the data

3793
02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:31,920
together rather than just attending to

3794
02:12:36,470 --> 02:12:34,000
the data itself

3795
02:12:38,709 --> 02:12:36,480
since this takes such hard work and such

3796
02:12:40,629 --> 02:12:38,719
a commitment of effort

3797
02:12:43,109 --> 02:12:40,639
in new arenas of investigation it

3798
02:12:44,870 --> 02:12:43,119
probably also means as suggested above

3799
02:12:46,950 --> 02:12:44,880
being willing to press a given

3800
02:12:48,470 --> 02:12:46,960
hypothesis to the limit even though it

3801
02:12:50,390 --> 02:12:48,480
may be the wrong one

3802
02:12:52,149 --> 02:12:50,400
so that our understanding of the range

3803
02:12:54,629 --> 02:12:52,159
of possibilities to which we keep our

3804
02:12:57,109 --> 02:12:54,639
minds open does not act to disperse our

3805
02:12:59,270 --> 02:12:57,119
focused activity

3806
02:13:01,109 --> 02:12:59,280
jump in if you want and and this would

3807
02:13:02,709 --> 02:13:01,119
be good for people new to the subject

3808
02:13:04,470 --> 02:13:02,719
just talking about all the different

3809
02:13:06,470 --> 02:13:04,480
possibilities and

3810
02:13:09,189 --> 02:13:06,480
leaving them on the table hopefully they

3811
02:13:10,870 --> 02:13:09,199
have more knowledge of this but yeah

3812
02:13:12,149 --> 02:13:10,880
let's say if this let's say this is

3813
02:13:13,830 --> 02:13:12,159
really the top you know they're still

3814
02:13:15,669 --> 02:13:13,840
stuck on this i don't think that's the

3815
02:13:17,270 --> 02:13:15,679
case but if it is

3816
02:13:19,350 --> 02:13:17,280
i'm not going to be alive when we figure

3817
02:13:21,990 --> 02:13:19,360
this out there's no way

3818
02:13:24,870 --> 02:13:22,000
there's absolutely no way that i'll be

3819
02:13:27,750 --> 02:13:24,880
alive either uh i

3820
02:13:30,790 --> 02:13:27,760
have researched and looked into help uh

3821
02:13:32,950 --> 02:13:30,800
hal put off for many many years

3822
02:13:36,149 --> 02:13:32,960
i read all of his books and he came out

3823
02:13:41,109 --> 02:13:36,159
with a movie with russell targ years ago

3824
02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:41,119
and several books afterwards he has been

3825
02:13:47,189 --> 02:13:44,400
intertwined in the parapsychology

3826
02:13:49,430 --> 02:13:47,199
aspect of the phenomenon since

3827
02:13:51,990 --> 02:13:49,440
what was it the 60-70 something like

3828
02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:52,000
that early 70s i think

3829
02:13:54,310 --> 02:13:53,119
yeah

3830
02:13:57,350 --> 02:13:54,320
it's

3831
02:14:00,550 --> 02:13:57,360
probably one of the most fascinating

3832
02:14:03,109 --> 02:14:00,560
topics that we can look at

3833
02:14:07,270 --> 02:14:03,119
probably also one of the most scariest

3834
02:14:10,709 --> 02:14:07,280
topics it's way more scary if something

3835
02:14:13,510 --> 02:14:10,719
has been on earth

3836
02:14:15,510 --> 02:14:13,520
from the beginning and is now

3837
02:14:19,189 --> 02:14:15,520
interacting with us

3838
02:14:21,910 --> 02:14:19,199
and interacting with our minds

3839
02:14:24,870 --> 02:14:21,920
uh and messing with us you know opposed

3840
02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:24,880
to an extraterrestrial entity visiting

3841
02:14:29,030 --> 02:14:26,960
from another solar system

3842
02:14:31,270 --> 02:14:29,040
and observing us like it's one of those

3843
02:14:32,790 --> 02:14:31,280
things where both things could possibly

3844
02:14:35,830 --> 02:14:32,800
be happening

3845
02:14:37,669 --> 02:14:35,840
i would honestly think that

3846
02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:37,679
the how put off side

3847
02:14:41,830 --> 02:14:40,000
is a little bit more terrifying and i

3848
02:14:43,430 --> 02:14:41,840
know he's gotten a lot of grief lately

3849
02:14:44,629 --> 02:14:43,440
because

3850
02:14:47,830 --> 02:14:44,639
people have

3851
02:14:49,990 --> 02:14:47,840
brought up his interest in

3852
02:14:51,430 --> 02:14:50,000
certain technology and his certain

3853
02:14:53,750 --> 02:14:51,440
endeavors

3854
02:14:54,470 --> 02:14:53,760
that have fallen through

3855
02:14:55,830 --> 02:14:54,480
but

3856
02:14:57,750 --> 02:14:55,840
because he's been

3857
02:15:00,390 --> 02:14:57,760
looking into something that's fallen

3858
02:15:02,550 --> 02:15:00,400
through and was not necessarily he was

3859
02:15:04,709 --> 02:15:02,560
basically played on a couple of

3860
02:15:07,030 --> 02:15:04,719
occasions a couple of occasions the

3861
02:15:09,189 --> 02:15:07,040
firmament

3862
02:15:12,550 --> 02:15:09,199
yeah because of that he's been

3863
02:15:16,229 --> 02:15:12,560
villainized but he's always been

3864
02:15:20,830 --> 02:15:16,239
one of my type fi top five people of

3865
02:15:26,470 --> 02:15:24,229
topic yeah i i i mean when i first got

3866
02:15:29,589 --> 02:15:26,480
into remote viewing in the mid 90s you

3867
02:15:31,189 --> 02:15:29,599
know his right away his name came up and

3868
02:15:33,030 --> 02:15:31,199
i've communicated with him a little bit

3869
02:15:34,790 --> 02:15:33,040
i i would love to interview him i'm not

3870
02:15:36,790 --> 02:15:34,800
sure how open he is to doing interviews

3871
02:15:37,510 --> 02:15:36,800
he does elect every now and then which i

3872
02:15:41,669 --> 02:15:37,520
have

3873
02:15:42,950 --> 02:15:41,679
transcribed um eric davis i mean he gave

3874
02:15:44,470 --> 02:15:42,960
eric

3875
02:15:47,270 --> 02:15:44,480
earth tech and

3876
02:15:48,709 --> 02:15:47,280
you know eric is just just

3877
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:48,719
he just

3878
02:15:51,350 --> 02:15:50,560
beams when he talks about hal davis he's

3879
02:15:53,109 --> 02:15:51,360
i mean

3880
02:15:54,629 --> 02:15:53,119
appreciative to be working as an el you

3881
02:15:57,030 --> 02:15:54,639
know your astrophysicist being able to

3882
02:15:58,709 --> 02:15:57,040
work on warp all that stuff that a lot

3883
02:16:02,229 --> 02:15:58,719
of places you don't won't let you work

3884
02:16:04,069 --> 02:16:02,239
on um and then you're opposed obviously

3885
02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:04,079
he's been a little bit villainized

3886
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:05,920
because of some of the

3887
02:16:10,790 --> 02:16:08,320
avenues that he has gone down including

3888
02:16:12,629 --> 02:16:10,800
uh scientology

3889
02:16:13,750 --> 02:16:12,639
which i know that's been brought up in

3890
02:16:15,750 --> 02:16:13,760
the past

3891
02:16:18,310 --> 02:16:15,760
and actually brought up more recently

3892
02:16:20,310 --> 02:16:18,320
again like you even mentioned to me like

3893
02:16:22,709 --> 02:16:20,320
some of these topics that have been put

3894
02:16:23,430 --> 02:16:22,719
to bed have been brought up again

3895
02:16:25,350 --> 02:16:23,440
and

3896
02:16:26,790 --> 02:16:25,360
i mean it's

3897
02:16:27,990 --> 02:16:26,800
it's it's one of those things that

3898
02:16:29,510 --> 02:16:28,000
people are going to do when they're

3899
02:16:31,030 --> 02:16:29,520
going down the research of this certain

3900
02:16:33,270 --> 02:16:31,040
person they're going to look at them

3901
02:16:36,150 --> 02:16:33,280
from the beginning and scientology i

3902
02:16:38,150 --> 02:16:36,160
think hal put off said that he was into

3903
02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:38,160
and he made it all the way

3904
02:16:41,349 --> 02:16:39,599
to the end which is a little bit

3905
02:16:43,110 --> 02:16:41,359
surprising considering the amount of

3906
02:16:44,230 --> 02:16:43,120
money and time that you have to invest

3907
02:16:47,110 --> 02:16:44,240
into it

3908
02:16:49,429 --> 02:16:47,120
but did he eventually leave it

3909
02:16:51,589 --> 02:16:49,439
he left it um there's a paper out there

3910
02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:51,599
and he talks about it well i think he he

3911
02:16:55,990 --> 02:16:53,599
was promoting the

3912
02:16:57,910 --> 02:16:56,000
i don't know what that device is where

3913
02:16:59,589 --> 02:16:57,920
it gets you all clear i forget what it

3914
02:17:01,750 --> 02:16:59,599
was but in the end he said he realized

3915
02:17:03,429 --> 02:17:01,760
it was bogus he made a mistake and

3916
02:17:04,870 --> 02:17:03,439
he got out yeah they're people that

3917
02:17:06,790 --> 02:17:04,880
people talk about stuff and they say he

3918
02:17:07,990 --> 02:17:06,800
did this and then remember eric davis

3919
02:17:09,509 --> 02:17:08,000
jumping in on facebook and say that's

3920
02:17:10,709 --> 02:17:09,519
not true that's not accurate there's

3921
02:17:13,349 --> 02:17:10,719
this long thing

3922
02:17:14,870 --> 02:17:13,359
telling people what happened

3923
02:17:17,349 --> 02:17:14,880
i can't remember the name of the device

3924
02:17:20,070 --> 02:17:17,359
where they hold both hands on this type

3925
02:17:22,790 --> 02:17:20,080
of thing that connects them to it reads

3926
02:17:25,750 --> 02:17:22,800
some type of uh body energy or

3927
02:17:29,429 --> 02:17:25,760
neurological e-meter yes the e-meter

3928
02:17:34,389 --> 02:17:31,589
yeah but after that what i mean what

3929
02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:34,399
does hal put all these days what is does

3930
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:37,200
he claim a religion does he claim any

3931
02:17:41,110 --> 02:17:39,040
type of belief system

3932
02:17:42,389 --> 02:17:41,120
i don't think so no he's never nobody's

3933
02:17:43,750 --> 02:17:42,399
ever asked him about that that would be

3934
02:17:45,589 --> 02:17:43,760
a good question to ask him i'd be

3935
02:17:47,509 --> 02:17:45,599
curious i mean i don't really care but i

3936
02:17:50,230 --> 02:17:47,519
would be curious what if he has any i

3937
02:17:53,110 --> 02:17:50,240
you know any ideas of what

3938
02:17:54,549 --> 02:17:53,120
on that subject you know we know how

3939
02:17:58,549 --> 02:17:54,559
mormonism

3940
02:18:01,429 --> 02:17:58,559
is tied into this subject

3941
02:18:03,110 --> 02:18:01,439
and i we could do a whole other space

3942
02:18:05,429 --> 02:18:03,120
you know a

3943
02:18:06,150 --> 02:18:05,439
podcast or whatever you want to do on it

3944
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:06,160
but

3945
02:18:12,790 --> 02:18:10,639
mormonism is deeply tied to this

3946
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:12,800
do you think that he is involved in that

3947
02:18:16,309 --> 02:18:14,240
in any sense

3948
02:18:17,509 --> 02:18:16,319
i don't think so but you have to ask him

3949
02:18:19,030 --> 02:18:17,519
i don't know

3950
02:18:20,469 --> 02:18:19,040
ask him all right

3951
02:18:24,150 --> 02:18:20,479
sorry i didn't mean to cut you off i

3952
02:18:25,389 --> 02:18:24,160
just wanted to jump in there

3953
02:18:27,990 --> 02:18:25,399
all right let me let me get the

3954
02:18:29,589 --> 02:18:28,000
ultra-terrestrials i

3955
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:29,599
i like that's one of my favorites that

3956
02:18:33,110 --> 02:18:30,880
it's something on this planet that's

3957
02:18:35,030 --> 02:18:33,120
been here um

3958
02:18:36,469 --> 02:18:35,040
as a focused example of broadening

3959
02:18:38,270 --> 02:18:36,479
broadening the scope of our

3960
02:18:42,070 --> 02:18:38,280
investigation let us consider the

3961
02:18:44,709 --> 02:18:42,080
ultra-terrestrial hypotheses hypothesis

3962
02:18:47,509 --> 02:18:44,719
as defined above example ancient occult

3963
02:18:50,469 --> 02:18:47,519
group isolated pre-diluvial high-tech

3964
02:18:52,870 --> 02:18:50,479
society stranded et's gods

3965
02:18:54,549 --> 02:18:52,880
i.e sequestered terrestrial cultures

3966
02:18:58,230 --> 02:18:54,559
examples two and three existing

3967
02:18:59,910 --> 02:18:58,240
alongside us in distinct stealth

3968
02:19:01,589 --> 02:18:59,920
which would be pretty cool if they're

3969
02:19:03,429 --> 02:19:01,599
here we just can't see them and we don't

3970
02:19:04,709 --> 02:19:03,439
have technology or maybe we're close to

3971
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:04,719
being able to see them with our

3972
02:19:07,589 --> 02:19:06,639
technology upgrade whatever the next one

3973
02:19:09,589 --> 02:19:07,599
is

3974
02:19:11,030 --> 02:19:09,599
first what are possible signatures of

3975
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:11,040
ultraterrestrial as opposed to

3976
02:19:14,469 --> 02:19:12,719
extraterrestrial presence good question

3977
02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:14,479
how would you tell the difference

3978
02:19:17,990 --> 02:19:16,719
density of sightings over decades if not

3979
02:19:19,669 --> 02:19:18,000
centuries

3980
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:19,679
and ju that's what john keel came to the

3981
02:19:22,309 --> 02:19:21,040
inclusion

3982
02:19:23,669 --> 02:19:22,319
john keele's like there's no way this

3983
02:19:25,509 --> 02:19:23,679
could be extraterrestrial there's just

3984
02:19:26,950 --> 02:19:25,519
too many sightings it's got to be

3985
02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:26,960
something based here

3986
02:19:31,270 --> 02:19:28,960
density of sightings over decades if not

3987
02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:31,280
centuries potentially indicative

3988
02:19:35,750 --> 02:19:34,000
indicative of a present time local as

3989
02:19:38,070 --> 02:19:35,760
opposed to extraterrestrial source in

3990
02:19:40,870 --> 02:19:38,080
other words that the uap phenomenon is

3991
02:19:42,870 --> 02:19:40,880
so ubiquitous as to argue against the

3992
02:19:45,110 --> 02:19:42,880
simple model of an occasionally visiting

3993
02:19:47,270 --> 02:19:45,120
extraterrestrial explorer

3994
02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:47,280
recent since world war ii

3995
02:19:50,630 --> 02:19:49,120
recent claimed focused messaging

3996
02:19:52,389 --> 02:19:50,640
regarding elimination of nuclear

3997
02:19:55,190 --> 02:19:52,399
technologies and concern regarding

3998
02:19:57,110 --> 02:19:55,200
environmental degradation

3999
02:19:59,510 --> 02:19:57,120
are would be reasonable themes for a

4000
02:20:01,270 --> 02:19:59,520
co-located but isolated terrestrial

4001
02:20:03,429 --> 02:20:01,280
located society in other words since

4002
02:20:05,429 --> 02:20:03,439
they share the plan with us they're like

4003
02:20:07,110 --> 02:20:05,439
get rid of your nukes you're destroying

4004
02:20:09,030 --> 02:20:07,120
our planet too

4005
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:09,040
and they may consider it their planet

4006
02:20:12,870 --> 02:20:11,280
above us and may not really consider us

4007
02:20:15,429 --> 02:20:12,880
very highly who knows

4008
02:20:18,389 --> 02:20:15,439
via subterfuge and disinformation

4009
02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:18,399
stealthily injected proliferating

4010
02:20:23,110 --> 02:20:21,359
emphasis on the e.t theme in other words

4011
02:20:24,710 --> 02:20:23,120
trying to trick us which

4012
02:20:26,630 --> 02:20:24,720
i think i stole that from john keel when

4013
02:20:28,630 --> 02:20:26,640
he first read this you know for whatever

4014
02:20:30,550 --> 02:20:28,640
reason trying to trick us on the et

4015
02:20:33,110 --> 02:20:30,560
theme as misdirection

4016
02:20:34,469 --> 02:20:33,120
to prevent exposure of local terrestrial

4017
02:20:37,270 --> 02:20:34,479
habitation

4018
02:20:38,710 --> 02:20:37,280
as in theater all of la's messengers of

4019
02:20:40,469 --> 02:20:38,720
deception basically they don't want to

4020
02:20:42,070 --> 02:20:40,479
be discovered so they do whatever they

4021
02:20:44,710 --> 02:20:42,080
can to make us think they're coming from

4022
02:20:46,630 --> 02:20:44,720
out there meanwhile they're here and

4023
02:20:48,550 --> 02:20:46,640
we're not looking here because we're

4024
02:20:49,830 --> 02:20:48,560
looking in you know into deep space for

4025
02:20:51,670 --> 02:20:49,840
this other

4026
02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:51,680
civilization coming here and meanwhile

4027
02:20:55,429 --> 02:20:53,200
they're right around us all the time

4028
02:20:57,510 --> 02:20:55,439
although how how long could how long

4029
02:20:58,710 --> 02:20:57,520
could that deception work where would

4030
02:21:00,630 --> 02:20:58,720
obviously say you know what unless

4031
02:21:01,910 --> 02:21:00,640
they're really that advanced where

4032
02:21:03,270 --> 02:21:01,920
they're just so good at it they're

4033
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:03,280
they're able to mimic what it would look

4034
02:21:05,750 --> 02:21:04,319
like

4035
02:21:07,190 --> 02:21:05,760
for an extraterrestrial race to come

4036
02:21:08,630 --> 02:21:07,200
here but then

4037
02:21:13,510 --> 02:21:08,640
from the beginning

4038
02:21:15,750 --> 02:21:13,520
like we're just now learning this like

4039
02:21:17,429 --> 02:21:15,760
you think that humans are evolved to to

4040
02:21:19,910 --> 02:21:17,439
a certain extent we're just now we're

4041
02:21:21,590 --> 02:21:19,920
babies basically we're just now learning

4042
02:21:23,030 --> 02:21:21,600
what they're capable of

4043
02:21:26,230 --> 02:21:23,040
and

4044
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:26,240
we're now attributing different types of

4045
02:21:30,309 --> 02:21:28,080
science to

4046
02:21:31,990 --> 02:21:30,319
whatever it is that's surrounding us

4047
02:21:34,469 --> 02:21:32,000
like you go back to the beginning like

4048
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:34,479
this these things have been recorded

4049
02:21:37,830 --> 02:21:36,800
um all throughout history in ancient

4050
02:21:38,830 --> 02:21:37,840
texts

4051
02:21:40,950 --> 02:21:38,840
if you want to talk about

4052
02:21:42,630 --> 02:21:40,960
ultraterrestrials it goes back to where

4053
02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:42,640
he's talking about the gen when he's

4054
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:44,560
talking about ultra terrestrials he's

4055
02:21:49,110 --> 02:21:46,800
basically attributing that to the gen

4056
02:21:50,230 --> 02:21:49,120
and what he has read in

4057
02:21:51,270 --> 02:21:50,240
ancient

4058
02:21:52,150 --> 02:21:51,280
texts

4059
02:21:53,990 --> 02:21:52,160
um

4060
02:21:56,790 --> 02:21:54,000
there are so many things that we are

4061
02:21:58,710 --> 02:21:56,800
just still unaware of that we are just

4062
02:22:01,590 --> 02:21:58,720
now

4063
02:22:04,389 --> 02:22:01,600
growing into the ability to understand

4064
02:22:20,710 --> 02:22:05,110
i

4065
02:22:22,389 --> 02:22:20,720
from extra you know from another planet

4066
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:22,399
as far as i know and it was on a

4067
02:22:25,750 --> 02:22:23,840
facebook page and i've talked about this

4068
02:22:27,590 --> 02:22:25,760
before it's nothing nefarious it's just

4069
02:22:29,349 --> 02:22:27,600
certain facebook pages are very careful

4070
02:22:31,510 --> 02:22:29,359
about what information

4071
02:22:32,790 --> 02:22:31,520
you share on twitter you know because

4072
02:22:34,150 --> 02:22:32,800
the people in the group are sharing

4073
02:22:36,910 --> 02:22:34,160
stuff privately and they don't want it

4074
02:22:38,790 --> 02:22:36,920
plastered everywhere else but a certain

4075
02:22:40,309 --> 02:22:38,800
astrophysicist

4076
02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:40,319
talked about how there is no evidence

4077
02:22:44,070 --> 02:22:42,160
that whatever this is is coming from

4078
02:22:45,670 --> 02:22:44,080
beyond the orbit of the moon there's no

4079
02:22:47,910 --> 02:22:45,680
deep space evidence where it's coming

4080
02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:47,920
from a deep you know something so far

4081
02:22:52,550 --> 02:22:51,040
away he goes if that evidence does exist

4082
02:22:54,150 --> 02:22:52,560
you know i have this person says i

4083
02:22:56,950 --> 02:22:54,160
haven't seen it maybe it exists in a

4084
02:22:59,270 --> 02:22:56,960
black program but i haven't seen it um

4085
02:23:01,990 --> 02:22:59,280
look at the mythology mythology of the

4086
02:23:03,429 --> 02:23:02,000
gen they're only allowed to go

4087
02:23:05,670 --> 02:23:03,439
um

4088
02:23:10,070 --> 02:23:05,680
with

4089
02:23:11,750 --> 02:23:10,080
out of our planet to a certain

4090
02:23:15,270 --> 02:23:11,760
location

4091
02:23:18,710 --> 02:23:15,280
um they're not allowed to travel

4092
02:23:19,830 --> 02:23:18,720
farther than basically our solar system

4093
02:23:20,870 --> 02:23:19,840
and our

4094
02:23:23,429 --> 02:23:20,880
directive

4095
02:23:25,110 --> 02:23:23,439
vicinity so everything that he's saying

4096
02:23:26,790 --> 02:23:25,120
um everything that you're just saying

4097
02:23:28,950 --> 02:23:26,800
right now like if you go back and

4098
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:28,960
actually look at the mythology it lines

4099
02:23:33,670 --> 02:23:31,120
up with some type of ultra

4100
02:23:38,150 --> 02:23:33,680
terrestrial or crypto-terrestrial

4101
02:23:43,429 --> 02:23:40,950
as opposed to like a physical being

4102
02:23:45,910 --> 02:23:43,439
as opposed to something extraterrestrial

4103
02:23:50,790 --> 02:23:45,920
that's visiting from another solar

4104
02:23:53,670 --> 02:23:50,800
system uh take avi loeb and his

4105
02:23:54,870 --> 02:23:53,680
um hypothesis like something that's

4106
02:23:56,870 --> 02:23:54,880
traveling

4107
02:23:59,030 --> 02:23:56,880
like within our universe

4108
02:24:01,830 --> 02:23:59,040
like if you go out back and look at the

4109
02:24:03,510 --> 02:24:01,840
mythology they're not allowed to

4110
02:24:06,230 --> 02:24:03,520
the gen are not allowed to travel

4111
02:24:08,070 --> 02:24:06,240
outside of our solar system but other

4112
02:24:11,190 --> 02:24:08,080
things are allowed to travel within our

4113
02:24:12,309 --> 02:24:11,200
solar system that's why i

4114
02:24:14,150 --> 02:24:12,319
believe

4115
02:24:16,389 --> 02:24:14,160
that it could be a combination of things

4116
02:24:19,190 --> 02:24:16,399
that we are experiencing that could be

4117
02:24:23,590 --> 02:24:19,200
attributed to multiple different types

4118
02:24:26,429 --> 02:24:23,600
of beings like there could be crypto

4119
02:24:28,630 --> 02:24:26,439
terrestrials there could also be

4120
02:24:31,270 --> 02:24:28,640
extraterrestrials that are

4121
02:24:33,590 --> 02:24:31,280
observing and analyzing those crypto

4122
02:24:35,510 --> 02:24:33,600
terrestrials

4123
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:35,520
and dave altman says where's the traffic

4124
02:24:39,349 --> 02:24:37,840
if it's from space well i mean

4125
02:24:40,710 --> 02:24:39,359
that assumes they're coming directly

4126
02:24:42,469 --> 02:24:40,720
from space maybe they're using a

4127
02:24:43,910 --> 02:24:42,479
wormhole where they pop up somewhere and

4128
02:24:45,670 --> 02:24:43,920
how that would even work if it's the

4129
02:24:47,510 --> 02:24:45,680
same place they would pop up every time

4130
02:24:48,710 --> 02:24:47,520
would it be a hot spot like skin walker

4131
02:24:50,790 --> 02:24:48,720
i don't know

4132
02:24:52,790 --> 02:24:50,800
um yeah you would think of it

4133
02:24:54,550 --> 02:24:52,800
you think this direct travel we would

4134
02:24:57,190 --> 02:24:54,560
have all the evidence in the world that

4135
02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:57,200
we would need from that well again you'd

4136
02:25:02,150 --> 02:24:59,439
go back and look at the mythology

4137
02:25:04,070 --> 02:25:02,160
the crypto-terrestrials especially in

4138
02:25:06,710 --> 02:25:04,080
regards to the jensens hal put off

4139
02:25:08,630 --> 02:25:06,720
brought it up and i hate to beat a dead

4140
02:25:10,790 --> 02:25:08,640
horse but he brought it up in this paper

4141
02:25:12,469 --> 02:25:10,800
specifically there are three types

4142
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:12,479
one of those types

4143
02:25:18,790 --> 02:25:13,760
are

4144
02:25:20,389 --> 02:25:18,800
certain location multiple locations on

4145
02:25:22,469 --> 02:25:20,399
this earth they may

4146
02:25:24,469 --> 02:25:22,479
they may be able to

4147
02:25:26,790 --> 02:25:24,479
leave for a certain period of time but

4148
02:25:27,910 --> 02:25:26,800
they have to go back to that one fixed

4149
02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:27,920
location

4150
02:25:33,910 --> 02:25:32,000
so if skinwalker ranch is a hot spot for

4151
02:25:35,429 --> 02:25:33,920
whatever that is

4152
02:25:37,110 --> 02:25:35,439
it would make sense that they would be

4153
02:25:39,750 --> 02:25:37,120
able to come out

4154
02:25:40,790 --> 02:25:39,760
be this type of trickster

4155
02:25:42,469 --> 02:25:40,800
being

4156
02:25:45,429 --> 02:25:42,479
be able to

4157
02:25:47,670 --> 02:25:45,439
attach themselves to a human

4158
02:25:50,550 --> 02:25:47,680
be able to mess with that human for a

4159
02:25:55,190 --> 02:25:50,560
period of time and then go back to their

4160
02:25:57,590 --> 02:25:55,200
fixed location i.e skinwalker ranch

4161
02:25:59,510 --> 02:25:57,600
and that's a lot of people cannot handle

4162
02:26:01,670 --> 02:25:59,520
that woo but

4163
02:26:03,110 --> 02:26:01,680
i love it and if you read john keels

4164
02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:03,120
i told you about this a part of john

4165
02:26:06,150 --> 02:26:04,960
keel's operation trojan horse where he

4166
02:26:07,910 --> 02:26:06,160
talks

4167
02:26:10,389 --> 02:26:07,920
about one of his theories where the

4168
02:26:12,389 --> 02:26:10,399
ultra-terrestrials are able to possess

4169
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:12,399
people and make them do stuff like

4170
02:26:15,830 --> 02:26:14,240
commit murders um

4171
02:26:17,590 --> 02:26:15,840
i really want to pull that audio up it's

4172
02:26:19,110 --> 02:26:17,600
a really interesting theory

4173
02:26:20,710 --> 02:26:19,120
if that's the case

4174
02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:20,720
yeah most people will be able to handle

4175
02:26:24,309 --> 02:26:22,800
that right

4176
02:26:25,830 --> 02:26:24,319
sarcasm

4177
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:25,840
um

4178
02:26:29,110 --> 02:26:27,520
yeah your knowledge of the gene is

4179
02:26:31,030 --> 02:26:29,120
impressive and i don't know any of that

4180
02:26:32,710 --> 02:26:31,040
stuff and i will have to read up on it

4181
02:26:34,630 --> 02:26:32,720
and you'll have to it's very fascinating

4182
02:26:36,469 --> 02:26:34,640
man like i've looked at so many

4183
02:26:37,670 --> 02:26:36,479
different facets and so many different

4184
02:26:38,469 --> 02:26:37,680
types of

4185
02:26:40,550 --> 02:26:38,479
uh

4186
02:26:43,830 --> 02:26:40,560
beings and mythology all around the

4187
02:26:46,469 --> 02:26:43,840
world in different cultures but

4188
02:26:49,349 --> 02:26:46,479
i mean it all ties back to

4189
02:26:51,270 --> 02:26:49,359
the uh abrahamic religions which are

4190
02:26:53,110 --> 02:26:51,280
multiple you got the quran you got the

4191
02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:53,120
bible you got

4192
02:26:57,110 --> 02:26:54,800
so many different things that are tied

4193
02:26:58,550 --> 02:26:57,120
to it that's basically like where we

4194
02:27:00,870 --> 02:26:58,560
began

4195
02:27:02,630 --> 02:27:00,880
uh civilization as we know it and like

4196
02:27:03,670 --> 02:27:02,640
you go back to

4197
02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:03,680
um

4198
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:05,680
mesopotamia

4199
02:27:09,510 --> 02:27:08,080
go back to just basically anything that

4200
02:27:12,070 --> 02:27:09,520
you can find

4201
02:27:14,070 --> 02:27:12,080
it all ties into this

4202
02:27:15,510 --> 02:27:14,080
mythological creature

4203
02:27:17,429 --> 02:27:15,520
called the gen

4204
02:27:19,429 --> 02:27:17,439
um

4205
02:27:22,469 --> 02:27:19,439
i don't know if it's true

4206
02:27:25,190 --> 02:27:22,479
maybe it's a big gigantic story but it

4207
02:27:26,870 --> 02:27:25,200
fits if it's the bill continue

4208
02:27:28,070 --> 02:27:26,880
it's a it's a

4209
02:27:29,349 --> 02:27:28,080
islamic

4210
02:27:31,030 --> 02:27:29,359
larp

4211
02:27:32,389 --> 02:27:31,040
right is it islamic is where where the

4212
02:27:34,150 --> 02:27:32,399
jinn is

4213
02:27:36,950 --> 02:27:34,160
yeah but where do you say larp because

4214
02:27:39,750 --> 02:27:38,630
being sarcastic when you said you don't

4215
02:27:41,349 --> 02:27:39,760
know if it's true and you said something

4216
02:27:43,590 --> 02:27:41,359
i was whatever i'm tired okay you go

4217
02:27:48,630 --> 02:27:43,600
back to the bible okay you go back to

4218
02:27:50,950 --> 02:27:48,640
the christian religion you go back to uh

4219
02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:50,960
even into

4220
02:27:56,550 --> 02:27:54,000
the um mormon religion they speak about

4221
02:28:00,389 --> 02:27:56,560
the angel gabriel and that was spoke

4222
02:28:02,469 --> 02:28:00,399
about in the the bible okay gabriel was

4223
02:28:05,030 --> 02:28:02,479
allegedly a gen

4224
02:28:06,630 --> 02:28:05,040
that went up and came back and the

4225
02:28:09,270 --> 02:28:06,640
mormons believed that

4226
02:28:10,830 --> 02:28:09,280
gabriel was noah they believed that he

4227
02:28:12,710 --> 02:28:10,840
was the person

4228
02:28:15,510 --> 02:28:12,720
responsible for

4229
02:28:17,429 --> 02:28:15,520
saving humanity

4230
02:28:20,469 --> 02:28:17,439
while

4231
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:20,479
god at the time

4232
02:28:25,830 --> 02:28:23,200
completely wiped out the gin

4233
02:28:28,150 --> 02:28:25,840
for corrupting humans i mean it's a

4234
02:28:29,030 --> 02:28:28,160
wonderful story i don't know if it's

4235
02:28:30,950 --> 02:28:29,040
true

4236
02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:30,960
i think it's fascinating

4237
02:28:35,110 --> 02:28:32,560
i love that stuff i think it's something

4238
02:28:37,270 --> 02:28:35,120
to look at

4239
02:28:39,830 --> 02:28:37,280
we don't know to this day we we still

4240
02:28:41,270 --> 02:28:39,840
don't have answers so i think uh

4241
02:28:42,550 --> 02:28:41,280
mythology

4242
02:28:45,030 --> 02:28:42,560
could possibly

4243
02:28:47,590 --> 02:28:45,040
you know direct us in some areas

4244
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:47,600
i think there's a lot of truth in them

4245
02:28:52,790 --> 02:28:50,080
mythological stories which i won't get

4246
02:28:56,870 --> 02:28:52,800
into now about cataclysms on this planet

4247
02:28:58,870 --> 02:28:56,880
and cyclical cataclysms but another day

4248
02:29:01,510 --> 02:28:58,880
interactions with humanoid genotype

4249
02:29:03,270 --> 02:29:01,520
ranging from modern humans to creatures

4250
02:29:05,190 --> 02:29:03,280
including sightings of little people

4251
02:29:07,830 --> 02:29:05,200
over the centuries encounters with

4252
02:29:09,990 --> 02:29:07,840
non-humans that haunt our folklore let

4253
02:29:12,710 --> 02:29:10,000
alone genetically engineered biological

4254
02:29:14,550 --> 02:29:12,720
robots or drones all variants within the

4255
02:29:16,710 --> 02:29:14,560
lexicon of alternative forms of the

4256
02:29:18,790 --> 02:29:16,720
human genome

4257
02:29:21,590 --> 02:29:18,800
seeming emphasis on reproduct

4258
02:29:23,830 --> 02:29:21,600
reproduction you know abductions

4259
02:29:25,349 --> 02:29:23,840
example harvesting of sperm and ova i'll

4260
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:25,359
bring up something a friend told me they

4261
02:29:29,349 --> 02:29:26,960
said that their abduction experiences

4262
02:29:30,630 --> 02:29:29,359
stopped when they had a vasectomy i'd

4263
02:29:32,309 --> 02:29:30,640
never heard that before but it would

4264
02:29:34,150 --> 02:29:32,319
make sense if that's really going on and

4265
02:29:36,150 --> 02:29:34,160
they're after sperm you have your

4266
02:29:37,830 --> 02:29:36,160
vasectomy and they're like ah we don't

4267
02:29:40,070 --> 02:29:37,840
need you anymore

4268
02:29:44,150 --> 02:29:40,080
harvesting of sperm and ova from certain

4269
02:29:46,469 --> 02:29:44,160
genetic lines let alone hybridization

4270
02:29:48,389 --> 02:29:46,479
could could be speak outreach towards

4271
02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:48,399
genetic diversity for a relatively

4272
02:29:52,710 --> 02:29:50,800
inbred local isolated society on the

4273
02:29:53,910 --> 02:29:52,720
wane and suffering from a potentially

4274
02:29:55,910 --> 02:29:53,920
the ability

4275
02:29:58,150 --> 02:29:55,920
debilitating genetic syndrome so they're

4276
02:29:59,750 --> 02:29:58,160
using us to help their situation

4277
02:30:01,830 --> 02:29:59,760
whatever it is they're having problems

4278
02:30:04,150 --> 02:30:01,840
which we've heard that before

4279
02:30:06,230 --> 02:30:04,160
i never heard it in a ultra terrestrial

4280
02:30:08,309 --> 02:30:06,240
localized situation i've heard it with

4281
02:30:09,670 --> 02:30:08,319
the grays and but the brace the grays

4282
02:30:11,830 --> 02:30:09,680
could be ultra terrestrials or

4283
02:30:14,550 --> 02:30:11,840
representations of the ultraterrestrials

4284
02:30:16,630 --> 02:30:14,560
really you know ai whatever i've called

4285
02:30:18,389 --> 02:30:16,640
it a proxy it's not really them it's not

4286
02:30:19,750 --> 02:30:18,399
really what we're it's not really the

4287
02:30:22,309 --> 02:30:19,760
intelligence it represents the

4288
02:30:25,030 --> 02:30:22,319
intelligence or does its bidding

4289
02:30:27,030 --> 02:30:25,040
biting i'm not biting

4290
02:30:28,870 --> 02:30:27,040
does the work of the intelligence

4291
02:30:29,990 --> 02:30:28,880
observation of vehicles not that

4292
02:30:32,309 --> 02:30:30,000
advanced

4293
02:30:33,510 --> 02:30:32,319
example comprehensible as opposed to

4294
02:30:35,910 --> 02:30:33,520
magical

4295
02:30:37,110 --> 02:30:35,920
even if none nonetheless well in advance

4296
02:30:39,110 --> 02:30:37,120
of our own

4297
02:30:41,110 --> 02:30:39,120
use of telepathic information transfer

4298
02:30:43,270 --> 02:30:41,120
only marginally ahead of present day

4299
02:30:45,030 --> 02:30:43,280
technical neurobiological advances in

4300
02:30:48,230 --> 02:30:45,040
the public domain so they're just

4301
02:30:50,309 --> 02:30:48,240
slightly ahead of us but enough we're

4302
02:30:51,110 --> 02:30:50,319
um

4303
02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:51,120
it's

4304
02:30:58,870 --> 02:30:55,600
reports of cave-like or undersea

4305
02:31:00,150 --> 02:30:58,880
destinations during claimed abductions

4306
02:31:02,150 --> 02:31:00,160
so in other words they're taking them

4307
02:31:04,070 --> 02:31:02,160
somewhere that's not another planet it's

4308
02:31:05,670 --> 02:31:04,080
underwater or in a cave

4309
02:31:07,670 --> 02:31:05,680
given the need for secrecy concerning

4310
02:31:11,110 --> 02:31:07,680
the reality of all the above on the part

4311
02:31:15,910 --> 02:31:14,070
as collated as co-located denizens of

4312
02:31:17,349 --> 02:31:15,920
our planet while nonetheless being

4313
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:17,359
subject to a certain level of

4314
02:31:22,070 --> 02:31:19,840
codependence the inscrutable nature of

4315
02:31:25,910 --> 02:31:22,080
the interactions would not be an

4316
02:31:29,190 --> 02:31:27,510
second under the assumption of

4317
02:31:30,710 --> 02:31:29,200
compelling evidence for the above it

4318
02:31:32,389 --> 02:31:30,720
would be critical to discern the

4319
02:31:34,790 --> 02:31:32,399
motivations of the ultraterrestrials to

4320
02:31:37,030 --> 02:31:34,800
maintain such a secret existence of

4321
02:31:37,990 --> 02:31:37,040
possible utmost concern to them could be

4322
02:31:40,389 --> 02:31:38,000
an over

4323
02:31:42,150 --> 02:31:40,399
arching fear of exploitation even

4324
02:31:44,630 --> 02:31:42,160
annihilation due to vulnerable

4325
02:31:46,230 --> 02:31:44,640
vulnerabilities despite possessing

4326
02:31:48,469 --> 02:31:46,240
certain levels of technological

4327
02:31:50,630 --> 02:31:48,479
superiority and i think mactooney's as

4328
02:31:52,790 --> 02:31:50,640
somebody mentioned in his book uh i

4329
02:31:53,590 --> 02:31:52,800
think it's crypto-terrestrials to have

4330
02:31:54,870 --> 02:31:53,600
um

4331
02:31:56,790 --> 02:31:54,880
yeah they may be

4332
02:31:58,790 --> 02:31:56,800
vulnerable to us that's why they hide

4333
02:32:00,630 --> 02:31:58,800
and that's why they misdirect it's not

4334
02:32:02,630 --> 02:32:00,640
not something nefarious it's something

4335
02:32:03,670 --> 02:32:02,640
for self-preservation

4336
02:32:05,349 --> 02:32:03,680
um

4337
02:32:06,790 --> 02:32:05,359
so they might have just even even though

4338
02:32:09,590 --> 02:32:06,800
they've possessed certain levels of

4339
02:32:12,230 --> 02:32:09,600
technological superiority

4340
02:32:13,910 --> 02:32:12,240
or fear of assimilation and consequent

4341
02:32:15,510 --> 02:32:13,920
loss of culture

4342
02:32:17,590 --> 02:32:15,520
which happens on this planet when you

4343
02:32:19,750 --> 02:32:17,600
know an advanced culture encounters a

4344
02:32:21,510 --> 02:32:19,760
less advanced culture

4345
02:32:23,670 --> 02:32:21,520
loss of culture religion customs

4346
02:32:26,469 --> 02:32:23,680
uncontrolled genetic mingling

4347
02:32:28,389 --> 02:32:26,479
i.e culture shock fear of human diseases

4348
02:32:30,230 --> 02:32:28,399
concern for consequences to the

4349
02:32:32,070 --> 02:32:30,240
terrestrial human population so they'd

4350
02:32:34,790 --> 02:32:32,080
be worried about us too

4351
02:32:36,469 --> 02:32:34,800
with its attendant reciprocal effects on

4352
02:32:38,710 --> 02:32:36,479
their own culture we'd both be screwing

4353
02:32:39,990 --> 02:32:38,720
each other over potential disruption of

4354
02:32:42,150 --> 02:32:40,000
resource gathering if that's what

4355
02:32:43,910 --> 02:32:42,160
they're doing including benefits derived

4356
02:32:46,150 --> 02:32:43,920
from stealthy interactions with and

4357
02:32:48,630 --> 02:32:46,160
possibly manipulating certain aspects of

4358
02:32:49,910 --> 02:32:48,640
the human terrestrial society that's the

4359
02:32:53,270 --> 02:32:49,920
most interesting part of this paper to

4360
02:32:56,150 --> 02:32:53,280
me always has been um it's interesting

4361
02:32:58,070 --> 02:32:56,160
it's not scary to me um a lot of people

4362
02:32:59,429 --> 02:32:58,080
will be devastated about if that turned

4363
02:33:01,429 --> 02:32:59,439
out to be true

4364
02:33:03,190 --> 02:33:01,439
third what might be the consequences of

4365
02:33:04,950 --> 02:33:03,200
humanity of disclosure of an

4366
02:33:07,510 --> 02:33:04,960
ultraterrestrial group as compared to

4367
02:33:08,550 --> 02:33:07,520
what this what we talked about earlier

4368
02:33:10,790 --> 02:33:08,560
compared to with that of

4369
02:33:12,710 --> 02:33:10,800
extraterrestrial visitation what would

4370
02:33:15,030 --> 02:33:12,720
be the reaction of the human population

4371
02:33:18,230 --> 02:33:15,040
versus one and the other

4372
02:33:20,070 --> 02:33:18,240
clearly the devil and we're at 14 of 16

4373
02:33:22,309 --> 02:33:20,080
clearly the devil is indeed in the

4374
02:33:25,270 --> 02:33:22,319
details but one could speculate that

4375
02:33:27,910 --> 02:33:25,280
former might in fact former is

4376
02:33:29,910 --> 02:33:27,920
ultra-terrestrials be more dire than the

4377
02:33:32,550 --> 02:33:29,920
latter extraterrestrials considering

4378
02:33:34,790 --> 02:33:32,560
that they had been here amongst us

4379
02:33:36,630 --> 02:33:34,800
perhaps in very personal ways yeah what

4380
02:33:38,870 --> 02:33:36,640
if they can mimic us and look like us

4381
02:33:40,630 --> 02:33:38,880
and hang out in the supermarket in l.a

4382
02:33:41,990 --> 02:33:40,640
like ingo swan claimed in his book

4383
02:33:44,230 --> 02:33:42,000
penetration

4384
02:33:46,150 --> 02:33:44,240
in contrast e.t visitation and all

4385
02:33:48,389 --> 02:33:46,160
probability being more foreign and

4386
02:33:49,590 --> 02:33:48,399
inscrutable could be

4387
02:33:51,590 --> 02:33:49,600
safer

4388
02:33:53,670 --> 02:33:51,600
such topics constitute interesting

4389
02:33:55,270 --> 02:33:53,680
material for sociological research

4390
02:33:56,630 --> 02:33:55,280
imagine studying this in school ten

4391
02:33:58,630 --> 02:33:56,640
years from now

4392
02:34:00,070 --> 02:33:58,640
for more detailed discussion of what i

4393
02:34:01,429 --> 02:34:00,080
have called here the ultraterrestrial

4394
02:34:03,429 --> 02:34:01,439
hypothesis i recommend the

4395
02:34:05,190 --> 02:34:03,439
crypto-terrestrials by mac toonies which

4396
02:34:06,630 --> 02:34:05,200
i mentioned somebody else mentioned in

4397
02:34:08,389 --> 02:34:06,640
the chat

4398
02:34:10,389 --> 02:34:08,399
he's uh he died early of cancer which

4399
02:34:12,309 --> 02:34:10,399
really sucks um he really was able to

4400
02:34:14,389 --> 02:34:12,319
explain his uh you could find on youtube

4401
02:34:16,309 --> 02:34:14,399
some of his lectures or his

4402
02:34:17,830 --> 02:34:16,319
interviews not lectures i don't think

4403
02:34:19,510 --> 02:34:17,840
are there any hints in the uap

4404
02:34:24,230 --> 02:34:19,520
literature that you want to jump in on

4405
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:28,230
you're muted

4406
02:34:31,830 --> 02:34:30,230
all right hey i'm sorry go ahead keep

4407
02:34:33,910 --> 02:34:31,840
going you want it

4408
02:34:35,510 --> 02:34:33,920
i mean i could but i won't just keep

4409
02:34:36,309 --> 02:34:35,520
going

4410
02:34:38,389 --> 02:34:36,319
all right

4411
02:34:39,590 --> 02:34:38,399
are there any hints and that's my

4412
02:34:40,950 --> 02:34:39,600
favorite thing and if people have the

4413
02:34:41,990 --> 02:34:40,960
book you want to get that book crypto

4414
02:34:44,309 --> 02:34:42,000
terrestrials and you'll find his

4415
02:34:46,550 --> 02:34:44,319
interviews he's a really sharp guy it

4416
02:34:48,389 --> 02:34:46,560
sucks that he died young of cancer are

4417
02:34:49,630 --> 02:34:48,399
there any hints in the uap literature

4418
02:34:51,429 --> 02:34:49,640
that there is evidence that the

4419
02:34:53,590 --> 02:34:51,439
ultra-terrestrial scenario outlined

4420
02:34:56,950 --> 02:34:53,600
above may have some validity

4421
02:34:58,710 --> 02:34:56,960
author author nick redfern in his book

4422
02:35:01,429 --> 02:34:58,720
the nasa conspiracies which was

4423
02:35:02,710 --> 02:35:01,439
mentioned earlier asserts that there's

4424
02:35:05,110 --> 02:35:02,720
there is

4425
02:35:06,630 --> 02:35:05,120
his interview of an ex-nasa gemini

4426
02:35:08,630 --> 02:35:06,640
contractor led to the claim that there

4427
02:35:10,389 --> 02:35:08,640
was evidence of a small band of

4428
02:35:12,469 --> 02:35:10,399
individuals and i've never heard this so

4429
02:35:14,389 --> 02:35:12,479
this is really cool to hear this i don't

4430
02:35:16,070 --> 02:35:14,399
know if it's true there's evidence of a

4431
02:35:18,150 --> 02:35:16,080
small band of individuals who are not

4432
02:35:19,110 --> 02:35:18,160
aliens from some distant star system at

4433
02:35:20,870 --> 02:35:19,120
all

4434
02:35:22,230 --> 02:35:20,880
but supposedly represented the last

4435
02:35:26,309 --> 02:35:22,240
vestiges of

4436
02:35:28,309 --> 02:35:26,319
race of beings that thousands of years

4437
02:35:29,990 --> 02:35:28,319
ago had an advanced and isolated

4438
02:35:31,990 --> 02:35:30,000
civilization that was responsible for

4439
02:35:34,150 --> 02:35:32,000
the legends of atlantis and similar

4440
02:35:35,429 --> 02:35:34,160
stories off to pull up my eric davis

4441
02:35:37,429 --> 02:35:35,439
quote on coast to coast when he was

4442
02:35:39,270 --> 02:35:37,439
talking about atlantis and george knapp

4443
02:35:41,110 --> 02:35:39,280
had to jump in and he said before you go

4444
02:35:42,389 --> 02:35:41,120
any further this is just a theory eric

4445
02:35:43,910 --> 02:35:42,399
right he's like yeah yeah it's just a

4446
02:35:45,190 --> 02:35:43,920
theory just a theory

4447
02:35:47,030 --> 02:35:45,200
um

4448
02:35:48,950 --> 02:35:47,040
legends of atlantis and similar stories

4449
02:35:51,349 --> 02:35:48,960
but who were forced by circumstances to

4450
02:35:53,190 --> 02:35:51,359
retreat into remote sequestered locales

4451
02:35:55,429 --> 02:35:53,200
for survival in other words mountains

4452
02:35:58,710 --> 02:35:55,439
and seabed at present and that makes a

4453
02:36:02,150 --> 02:35:58,720
lot of sense at present or

4454
02:36:04,710 --> 02:36:02,160
they were forced into those locations if

4455
02:36:07,510 --> 02:36:04,720
you go back to ancient texts especially

4456
02:36:09,270 --> 02:36:07,520
the book of enoch which i know has been

4457
02:36:10,710 --> 02:36:09,280
kind of

4458
02:36:19,349 --> 02:36:10,720
um

4459
02:36:23,510 --> 02:36:20,830
forced

4460
02:36:26,070 --> 02:36:23,520
why uh because they were corrupting

4461
02:36:28,230 --> 02:36:26,080
humanity oh

4462
02:36:29,910 --> 02:36:28,240
we're easily corruptable so

4463
02:36:31,270 --> 02:36:29,920
oh yeah we are

4464
02:36:32,550 --> 02:36:31,280
go ahead

4465
02:36:34,150 --> 02:36:32,560
there's some good questions in the chat

4466
02:36:36,710 --> 02:36:34,160
but not related to this right now i want

4467
02:36:38,150 --> 02:36:36,720
to get to um

4468
02:36:40,070 --> 02:36:38,160
remind me about who's in the who's in

4469
02:36:42,070 --> 02:36:40,080
the saucers

4470
02:36:44,309 --> 02:36:42,080
at present they were primarily concerned

4471
02:36:45,990 --> 02:36:44,319
about nuclear war and degradation of the

4472
02:36:47,030 --> 02:36:46,000
environment and this has led to some

4473
02:36:48,790 --> 02:36:47,040
degree of

4474
02:36:50,630 --> 02:36:48,800
attempting to influence our culture

4475
02:36:51,750 --> 02:36:50,640
which would make sense if that's part

4476
02:36:53,190 --> 02:36:51,760
you know you hear about the people

4477
02:36:54,550 --> 02:36:53,200
getting the message about you know

4478
02:36:56,710 --> 02:36:54,560
you're destroying your environment

4479
02:36:59,190 --> 02:36:56,720
however they felt it had to be carried

4480
02:37:02,070 --> 02:36:59,200
out under the and supposedly being seen

4481
02:37:03,510 --> 02:37:02,080
around nuclear missile place sites

4482
02:37:05,910 --> 02:37:03,520
however they felt it had to be carried

4483
02:37:08,870 --> 02:37:05,920
out under the ruse

4484
02:37:11,429 --> 02:37:08,880
that they were from distant star systems

4485
02:37:13,190 --> 02:37:11,439
deception to protect what they felt to

4486
02:37:16,070 --> 02:37:13,200
be their vulnerable position despite

4487
02:37:17,349 --> 02:37:16,080
their advanced technology

4488
02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:17,359
which would be really interesting if

4489
02:37:21,349 --> 02:37:19,600
that's the case you know sorry guys we

4490
02:37:23,670 --> 02:37:21,359
had to try to pretend we were e.t

4491
02:37:26,150 --> 02:37:23,680
because we just could not trust you to

4492
02:37:28,309 --> 02:37:26,160
not try to destroy us because you're a

4493
02:37:30,630 --> 02:37:28,319
warring monkey-like

4494
02:37:32,630 --> 02:37:30,640
people that's i think what is nolan says

4495
02:37:34,230 --> 02:37:32,640
monkeys with tools i don't know what he

4496
02:37:37,349 --> 02:37:34,240
says something like that we were talking

4497
02:37:40,150 --> 02:37:37,359
monkeys and i use that on occasion

4498
02:37:41,510 --> 02:37:40,160
that's all we are talking monkeys

4499
02:37:44,230 --> 02:37:41,520
and

4500
02:37:45,510 --> 02:37:44,240
i'll add something else at the end go

4501
02:37:46,710 --> 02:37:45,520
ahead okay

4502
02:37:48,550 --> 02:37:46,720
although the ultra-terrestrial

4503
02:37:50,630 --> 02:37:48,560
hypothesis i should have you read some

4504
02:37:53,830 --> 02:37:50,640
of this although the ultra-terrestrial

4505
02:37:57,590 --> 02:37:53,840
hypothesis scenario considered

4506
02:37:59,670 --> 02:37:57,600
this is next last page considered here

4507
02:38:01,270 --> 02:37:59,680
considers an expansion of the model to

4508
02:38:03,590 --> 02:38:01,280
include other than the simple

4509
02:38:05,910 --> 02:38:03,600
extraterrestrial hypothesis

4510
02:38:08,469 --> 02:38:05,920
the predicted observable consequences of

4511
02:38:10,469 --> 02:38:08,479
the two options are quite parallel for

4512
02:38:12,790 --> 02:38:10,479
our purposes here careful consideration

4513
02:38:14,309 --> 02:38:12,800
of the data obtained along the way are

4514
02:38:16,070 --> 02:38:14,319
to be matched against templates for the

4515
02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:16,080
two major options

4516
02:38:19,590 --> 02:38:17,920
ultra-terrestrial or extraterrestrial

4517
02:38:22,389 --> 02:38:19,600
keeping in mind that it might be both

4518
02:38:24,070 --> 02:38:22,399
and rather than neither than either or

4519
02:38:25,590 --> 02:38:24,080
yeah it could be both definitely could

4520
02:38:27,670 --> 02:38:25,600
be both

4521
02:38:29,349 --> 02:38:27,680
and then he gives all of his sources

4522
02:38:32,309 --> 02:38:29,359
wonder in the sky wonders in the sky

4523
02:38:33,990 --> 02:38:32,319
which i have all back in valet

4524
02:38:35,670 --> 02:38:34,000
greenworld's black vault which i have

4525
02:38:37,349 --> 02:38:35,680
the book

4526
02:38:38,900 --> 02:38:37,359
um

4527
02:38:40,870 --> 02:38:38,910
sulka sitchin

4528
02:38:43,349 --> 02:38:40,880
[Music]

4529
02:38:44,950 --> 02:38:43,359
owens

4530
02:38:47,190 --> 02:38:44,960
cooper the article in the new york times

4531
02:38:48,870 --> 02:38:47,200
zlatkowski skinwalkers so this is

4532
02:38:50,950 --> 02:38:48,880
updated if it wasn't written recent

4533
02:38:53,270 --> 02:38:50,960
because swollen reddit years wrote it

4534
02:38:57,030 --> 02:38:53,280
years ago masters talking about time

4535
02:39:00,469 --> 02:38:57,040
travelers valet deception messengers

4536
02:39:02,790 --> 02:39:00,479
cooney redfern that's it that is it

4537
02:39:08,389 --> 02:39:02,800
oh my

4538
02:39:10,950 --> 02:39:08,399
i don't think i've ever asked you before

4539
02:39:14,469 --> 02:39:10,960
oh no

4540
02:39:18,150 --> 02:39:14,479
are you ready for this all right so

4541
02:39:20,870 --> 02:39:18,160
if humans are going to develop nuclear

4542
02:39:23,270 --> 02:39:20,880
technology we have nuclear missiles we

4543
02:39:25,349 --> 02:39:23,280
have nuclear silos

4544
02:39:29,110 --> 02:39:25,359
what makes you think

4545
02:39:32,550 --> 02:39:29,120
that we would not develop the capability

4546
02:39:34,790 --> 02:39:32,560
to disarm and disable those

4547
02:39:37,030 --> 02:39:34,800
starting on ours

4548
02:39:39,429 --> 02:39:37,040
and going to all the other

4549
02:39:41,429 --> 02:39:39,439
countries in our adversaries so you

4550
02:39:42,309 --> 02:39:41,439
think it's us doing it you're suggesting

4551
02:39:48,710 --> 02:39:42,319
that

4552
02:39:52,870 --> 02:39:48,720
developing

4553
02:39:54,710 --> 02:39:52,880
a means to disable it

4554
02:39:55,910 --> 02:39:54,720
i just think it's so far advanced what

4555
02:39:57,670 --> 02:39:55,920
they're talking about you know being

4556
02:39:59,429 --> 02:39:57,680
able to disable it just by hovering over

4557
02:40:01,590 --> 02:39:59,439
the missile side i mean

4558
02:40:02,870 --> 02:40:01,600
i could maybe yeah they would think that

4559
02:40:04,309 --> 02:40:02,880
maybe i don't know if they were ever

4560
02:40:06,870 --> 02:40:04,319
thinking of that at the time when we had

4561
02:40:08,710 --> 02:40:06,880
to get missiles why would we not like

4562
02:40:10,070 --> 02:40:08,720
why would you develop something without

4563
02:40:12,950 --> 02:40:10,080
developing

4564
02:40:14,710 --> 02:40:12,960
a counter measure against it like if you

4565
02:40:15,990 --> 02:40:14,720
know that russia has

4566
02:40:18,469 --> 02:40:16,000
nuclear

4567
02:40:19,990 --> 02:40:18,479
silos why would you not develop a

4568
02:40:22,070 --> 02:40:20,000
counter-measure

4569
02:40:23,910 --> 02:40:22,080
to disable it

4570
02:40:25,349 --> 02:40:23,920
that assumes i mean i guess if you could

4571
02:40:26,710 --> 02:40:25,359
you would i just don't know if we have

4572
02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:26,720
that technology that they're talking

4573
02:40:30,469 --> 02:40:28,160
about well

4574
02:40:33,510 --> 02:40:30,479
there's not been nuclear war since the

4575
02:40:35,590 --> 02:40:33,520
50s so something's happened

4576
02:40:38,230 --> 02:40:35,600
why would you not think that maybe we

4577
02:40:40,870 --> 02:40:38,240
don't have the ability to do so

4578
02:40:42,389 --> 02:40:40,880
maybe or we just haven't

4579
02:40:44,550 --> 02:40:42,399
you know gotten into a nuclear war

4580
02:40:45,830 --> 02:40:44,560
because people realize how devastating

4581
02:40:48,870 --> 02:40:45,840
it would be to the planet and it would

4582
02:40:49,990 --> 02:40:48,880
be a like war games there's no winner um

4583
02:40:53,030 --> 02:40:50,000
i don't know

4584
02:40:54,070 --> 02:40:53,040
but did you discount the possibility

4585
02:40:59,269 --> 02:40:54,080
that

4586
02:41:00,230 --> 02:40:59,279
nuclear facilities

4587
02:41:03,670 --> 02:41:00,240
is

4588
02:41:07,269 --> 02:41:03,680
our own technology trying to test out

4589
02:41:08,710 --> 02:41:07,279
our own ability to disable that i don't

4590
02:41:10,309 --> 02:41:08,720
i don't think that's the case do i think

4591
02:41:12,150 --> 02:41:10,319
it's possible anything's possible i

4592
02:41:13,910 --> 02:41:12,160
don't discount anything i've also heard

4593
02:41:15,269 --> 02:41:13,920
i've also heard um

4594
02:41:17,030 --> 02:41:15,279
what's his name

4595
02:41:18,950 --> 02:41:17,040
robert

4596
02:41:20,950 --> 02:41:18,960
no ray bo shay ray boucher talk about

4597
02:41:23,429 --> 02:41:20,960
he's a minister i need to talk to him

4598
02:41:25,190 --> 02:41:23,439
too um talking about he thinks that

4599
02:41:26,950 --> 02:41:25,200
whatever this is is demonic and it's

4600
02:41:28,550 --> 02:41:26,960
trying to pretend that it's

4601
02:41:30,550 --> 02:41:28,560
extraterrestrial by

4602
02:41:31,910 --> 02:41:30,560
hovering over our nuclear missile sites

4603
02:41:33,510 --> 02:41:31,920
and then shutting them down because it's

4604
02:41:37,030 --> 02:41:33,520
a perfect like oh they care about our

4605
02:41:38,630 --> 02:41:37,040
planet obviously it's just a theory um

4606
02:41:41,750 --> 02:41:38,640
i don't rule anything out but that's not

4607
02:41:43,750 --> 02:41:41,760
something i give high

4608
02:41:45,429 --> 02:41:43,760
considerably why not so you think that

4609
02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:45,439
we would develop this without a way to

4610
02:41:48,389 --> 02:41:47,120
disarm it

4611
02:41:50,469 --> 02:41:48,399
yeah i mean

4612
02:41:52,230 --> 02:41:50,479
you know we can't disarm lots of stuff i

4613
02:41:53,590 --> 02:41:52,240
mean

4614
02:41:55,110 --> 02:41:53,600
like what

4615
02:41:56,870 --> 02:41:55,120
like

4616
02:41:57,910 --> 02:41:56,880
let me think

4617
02:41:59,750 --> 02:41:57,920
all right i'll give you i'll give you

4618
02:42:00,550 --> 02:41:59,760
that one i'm too tired i almost want to

4619
02:42:02,870 --> 02:42:00,560
go

4620
02:42:04,550 --> 02:42:02,880
i know i'm tired

4621
02:42:06,870 --> 02:42:04,560
i'm just saying like

4622
02:42:08,950 --> 02:42:06,880
it's funny it's a damn good possibility

4623
02:42:09,830 --> 02:42:08,960
especially listening to robert salas

4624
02:42:11,910 --> 02:42:09,840
okay

4625
02:42:13,750 --> 02:42:11,920
and i've done a lot of research and a

4626
02:42:16,309 --> 02:42:13,760
lot of listening to robert salas and a

4627
02:42:17,269 --> 02:42:16,319
lot of his uh testimony

4628
02:42:19,510 --> 02:42:17,279
uh

4629
02:42:21,910 --> 02:42:19,520
throughout the past couple of months and

4630
02:42:22,790 --> 02:42:21,920
it's a damn good possibility

4631
02:42:25,110 --> 02:42:22,800
that

4632
02:42:28,309 --> 02:42:25,120
we were trying to

4633
02:42:31,269 --> 02:42:28,319
figure out a way to disarm our

4634
02:42:33,190 --> 02:42:31,279
own nuclear missiles and nuclear

4635
02:42:35,190 --> 02:42:33,200
facility i'll give you an argument

4636
02:42:37,030 --> 02:42:35,200
against that places like that in those

4637
02:42:39,830 --> 02:42:37,040
areas have had the hitchhiker type

4638
02:42:41,190 --> 02:42:39,840
effect around the whole the whole area

4639
02:42:42,790 --> 02:42:41,200
what area

4640
02:42:44,389 --> 02:42:42,800
the area where the nuclear missiles were

4641
02:42:45,910 --> 02:42:44,399
and so the people who live in that area

4642
02:42:47,750 --> 02:42:45,920
i'm not sure if it's all military but

4643
02:42:49,269 --> 02:42:47,760
they're having they're having related

4644
02:42:51,110 --> 02:42:49,279
phenomena they're having orbs they're

4645
02:42:52,710 --> 02:42:51,120
having i don't know if it's hitchhiker

4646
02:42:54,389 --> 02:42:52,720
effect but poltergeist activity which

4647
02:42:57,990 --> 02:42:54,399
would tell me whatever's hovering over

4648
02:43:00,630 --> 02:42:58,000
those nuclear sites is not human so

4649
02:43:01,990 --> 02:43:00,640
can you give me specific examples yeah

4650
02:43:04,070 --> 02:43:02,000
not right now i think it was colin

4651
02:43:05,670 --> 02:43:04,080
keller who talked about that and i'm not

4652
02:43:07,910 --> 02:43:05,680
sure if he brought it up in my interview

4653
02:43:09,190 --> 02:43:07,920
or another interview but i will i will

4654
02:43:11,030 --> 02:43:09,200
where he talks about it it's just you

4655
02:43:12,790 --> 02:43:11,040
know it's just an anecdote obviously um

4656
02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:12,800
but the same thing happened also in

4657
02:43:16,710 --> 02:43:15,120
tests all in norway because people i i

4658
02:43:18,870 --> 02:43:16,720
was thinking leaning towards natural

4659
02:43:20,389 --> 02:43:18,880
with hestalin in norway and then i heard

4660
02:43:22,230 --> 02:43:20,399
kelleher's like no the scientists there

4661
02:43:24,950 --> 02:43:22,240
was saying they're having the same type

4662
02:43:26,710 --> 02:43:24,960
of related phenomena occurring in their

4663
02:43:28,710 --> 02:43:26,720
home so it's like happening to all of

4664
02:43:30,870 --> 02:43:28,720
them too and supposedly it happened and

4665
02:43:32,389 --> 02:43:30,880
i'm not sure which place is related you

4666
02:43:34,309 --> 02:43:32,399
know in the northern tier i need to get

4667
02:43:35,429 --> 02:43:34,319
specifics with that i'm not sure if it's

4668
02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:35,439
in the book

4669
02:43:38,870 --> 02:43:37,439
skinwalkers or it was my interview one

4670
02:43:40,469 --> 02:43:38,880
of those but it was interesting i'd

4671
02:43:42,950 --> 02:43:40,479
never heard that before

4672
02:43:44,389 --> 02:43:42,960
i posted a very interesting thread on

4673
02:43:45,190 --> 02:43:44,399
oakridge

4674
02:43:53,110 --> 02:43:45,200
and

4675
02:43:56,710 --> 02:43:53,120
something about the ufos that were

4676
02:43:59,590 --> 02:43:56,720
um and those reports that were

4677
02:44:00,710 --> 02:43:59,600
made by i think it was the air force at

4678
02:44:02,790 --> 02:44:00,720
the time

4679
02:44:05,670 --> 02:44:02,800
but it also just i mean it just makes me

4680
02:44:08,389 --> 02:44:05,680
think that we would not develop any type

4681
02:44:09,590 --> 02:44:08,399
of technology that we could not shut

4682
02:44:12,790 --> 02:44:09,600
down

4683
02:44:15,990 --> 02:44:12,800
if you develop something you better damn

4684
02:44:19,190 --> 02:44:16,000
well be capable of cutting it off

4685
02:44:21,750 --> 02:44:19,200
and if we can cut our own technology off

4686
02:44:23,990 --> 02:44:21,760
of course that's gonna be the first step

4687
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:24,000
um

4688
02:44:29,349 --> 02:44:27,600
to be able to cut other adversaries

4689
02:44:32,070 --> 02:44:29,359
technology off we would test it on

4690
02:44:33,990 --> 02:44:32,080
ourselves so there were orbs flying

4691
02:44:36,389 --> 02:44:34,000
around there were ufos flying around all

4692
02:44:38,230 --> 02:44:36,399
of our nuclear facilities of course

4693
02:44:40,790 --> 02:44:38,240
because we're going to be the first

4694
02:44:41,830 --> 02:44:40,800
guys that we tested on before we go to

4695
02:44:45,110 --> 02:44:41,840
to

4696
02:44:47,110 --> 02:44:45,120
their stuff and

4697
02:44:50,230 --> 02:44:47,120
you know we haven't

4698
02:44:54,070 --> 02:44:50,240
had any issues

4699
02:44:56,469 --> 02:44:54,080
in regards to nukes in a very long time

4700
02:44:58,710 --> 02:44:56,479
that may very well be because we have

4701
02:44:59,590 --> 02:44:58,720
already developed systems to disable

4702
02:45:01,269 --> 02:44:59,600
them

4703
02:45:03,030 --> 02:45:01,279
yeah but like i said if those stories

4704
02:45:04,630 --> 02:45:03,040
are true that theory goes out the window

4705
02:45:07,110 --> 02:45:04,640
i don't think we have technology that's

4706
02:45:09,190 --> 02:45:07,120
creating poltergeists

4707
02:45:10,710 --> 02:45:09,200
neither can i like the poltergeist is

4708
02:45:11,750 --> 02:45:10,720
like irrelevant at this point i'm

4709
02:45:12,830 --> 02:45:11,760
talking about

4710
02:45:16,070 --> 02:45:12,840
strict

4711
02:45:17,750 --> 02:45:16,080
technology uh in regards to enabling and

4712
02:45:19,990 --> 02:45:17,760
disabling nuclear deaths it's always a

4713
02:45:22,230 --> 02:45:20,000
phenomenon poltergeist activity in areas

4714
02:45:23,830 --> 02:45:22,240
where we're having ufos or whatever

4715
02:45:25,990 --> 02:45:23,840
hovering above bases that tells me

4716
02:45:28,150 --> 02:45:26,000
that's not human technology that's

4717
02:45:29,349 --> 02:45:28,160
that's 100

4718
02:45:31,269 --> 02:45:29,359
all right

4719
02:45:33,670 --> 02:45:31,279
i can counter that also

4720
02:45:36,070 --> 02:45:33,680
go back and look at

4721
02:45:38,309 --> 02:45:36,080
what's his name i have so many of his

4722
02:45:41,030 --> 02:45:38,319
books like she did so many things

4723
02:45:44,309 --> 02:45:41,040
not kill but um kehoe

4724
02:45:47,030 --> 02:45:44,319
so he wrote about this over and over his

4725
02:45:49,190 --> 02:45:47,040
books were actually pulled

4726
02:45:52,950 --> 02:45:49,200
and they were banned for a period of

4727
02:45:55,110 --> 02:45:52,960
time to where he said that this

4728
02:45:57,190 --> 02:45:55,120
these balls of light that were hovering

4729
02:45:59,910 --> 02:45:57,200
over our nuclear facilities

4730
02:46:02,790 --> 02:45:59,920
were attributed to plasma

4731
02:46:04,710 --> 02:46:02,800
and i know that plasma it's like a hot

4732
02:46:06,710 --> 02:46:04,720
topic these days especially since

4733
02:46:09,349 --> 02:46:06,720
morning brought it up and there's a hot

4734
02:46:12,469 --> 02:46:09,359
plasma very small group it's not a hop

4735
02:46:16,790 --> 02:46:12,479
topic in the ufo field well and in my

4736
02:46:19,670 --> 02:46:16,800
circle it's a hot topic so plasma it was

4737
02:46:21,830 --> 02:46:19,680
these plasmas attributed to what has

4738
02:46:24,870 --> 02:46:21,840
been has been

4739
02:46:26,870 --> 02:46:24,880
hovering over certain nuclear facilities

4740
02:46:29,590 --> 02:46:26,880
it's you know going all the way back to

4741
02:46:31,429 --> 02:46:29,600
quito so it's not a new thing it's

4742
02:46:35,830 --> 02:46:31,439
something that's been

4743
02:46:41,269 --> 02:46:37,510
what makes us think that we didn't

4744
02:46:45,590 --> 02:46:41,279
develop this like back in the 50s

4745
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:47,990
i'm going to get to questions i i wanted

4746
02:46:52,309 --> 02:46:49,600
to answer this question if lou allegedly

4747
02:46:53,830 --> 02:46:52,319
knows who's in the saucer so it was uh

4748
02:46:56,230 --> 02:46:53,840
i think he's taking credit for it it was

4749
02:46:57,750 --> 02:46:56,240
it was jeremy mcgowan who was with lou

4750
02:46:59,910 --> 02:46:57,760
last year or the year before at his

4751
02:47:01,510 --> 02:46:59,920
house in wyoming and he said that

4752
02:47:03,190 --> 02:47:01,520
from lou's lips to his mouth he said we

4753
02:47:04,230 --> 02:47:03,200
know who's in the saucers we know who's

4754
02:47:05,910 --> 02:47:04,240
in the

4755
02:47:07,590 --> 02:47:05,920
triangles we have no ideas of who's in

4756
02:47:09,349 --> 02:47:07,600
the tic tacs there was something about

4757
02:47:10,309 --> 02:47:09,359
you know in the triangles it's us and

4758
02:47:12,389 --> 02:47:10,319
them

4759
02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:12,399
um so flu allegedly knows who's in the

4760
02:47:15,429 --> 02:47:13,600
saucers and probably got that

4761
02:47:16,950 --> 02:47:15,439
information during atip

4762
02:47:18,469 --> 02:47:16,960
i don't know if he got from any tip it

4763
02:47:20,389 --> 02:47:18,479
might have been a black program somebody

4764
02:47:22,070 --> 02:47:20,399
told him information i don't know um how

4765
02:47:23,510 --> 02:47:22,080
come hal doesn't know it as well who

4766
02:47:24,710 --> 02:47:23,520
says who said hal doesn't know it just

4767
02:47:26,630 --> 02:47:24,720
because hell doesn't talk about it

4768
02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:26,640
doesn't mean hal doesn't know that it's

4769
02:47:30,550 --> 02:47:28,240
possible hal's heard it and hal doesn't

4770
02:47:31,910 --> 02:47:30,560
believe it i don't know um but just

4771
02:47:37,750 --> 02:47:31,920
because

4772
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:37,760
[Music]

4773
02:47:40,630 --> 02:47:39,120
if we know who's in the saucers that

4774
02:47:41,830 --> 02:47:40,640
doesn't mean we know what they are it

4775
02:47:44,070 --> 02:47:41,840
doesn't mean we know where they come

4776
02:47:46,230 --> 02:47:44,080
from and lewis spoken about that before

4777
02:47:48,550 --> 02:47:46,240
so um

4778
02:47:50,469 --> 02:47:48,560
jess is back

4779
02:47:52,469 --> 02:47:50,479
louis louis spoken about that before

4780
02:47:54,230 --> 02:47:52,479
where you know it's really hard just if

4781
02:47:56,710 --> 02:47:54,240
you have a body to determine what it is

4782
02:47:58,630 --> 02:47:56,720
where it's from all of that stuff so

4783
02:47:59,990 --> 02:47:58,640
they may have analyzed bodies if we have

4784
02:48:01,429 --> 02:48:00,000
bodies and still not know where they're

4785
02:48:04,389 --> 02:48:01,439
from or where they originate from or

4786
02:48:06,150 --> 02:48:04,399
where they hang out so yeah

4787
02:48:08,309 --> 02:48:06,160
well when lou said that i think

4788
02:48:12,389 --> 02:48:08,319
everybody attributed that

4789
02:48:13,750 --> 02:48:12,399
comment to the the turkish ufo sighting

4790
02:48:16,150 --> 02:48:13,760
and i don't think i've ever seen

4791
02:48:18,389 --> 02:48:16,160
anything else attributed to what he said

4792
02:48:19,990 --> 02:48:18,399
at that point in time and the turkish

4793
02:48:21,830 --> 02:48:20,000
thing is kind of like still up in the

4794
02:48:23,349 --> 02:48:21,840
air it's never been debunked i know a

4795
02:48:24,150 --> 02:48:23,359
lot of people have said that it's been a

4796
02:48:26,230 --> 02:48:24,160
ship

4797
02:48:28,710 --> 02:48:26,240
but there's absolutely no way in proving

4798
02:48:30,950 --> 02:48:28,720
some of these historical sightings

4799
02:48:33,830 --> 02:48:30,960
yeah he wasn't this wasn't about turkey

4800
02:48:36,790 --> 02:48:33,840
this was in a private conversation

4801
02:48:39,030 --> 02:48:36,800
that he kind of denied and then sean

4802
02:48:41,590 --> 02:48:39,040
cahill denied and called it bs and i'm

4803
02:48:43,750 --> 02:48:41,600
like well when i heard it i took it and

4804
02:48:45,190 --> 02:48:43,760
i showed it to somebody who i trust and

4805
02:48:46,630 --> 02:48:45,200
they're like

4806
02:48:48,790 --> 02:48:46,640
we know who's in the saucers and they

4807
02:48:51,030 --> 02:48:48,800
said that is true so

4808
02:48:52,870 --> 02:48:51,040
for what it's worth you know no proof of

4809
02:48:54,469 --> 02:48:52,880
course

4810
02:48:56,790 --> 02:48:54,479
what is this i'm gonna just do a couple

4811
02:48:59,349 --> 02:48:56,800
more just because i'm tired experimental

4812
02:49:01,910 --> 02:48:59,359
emp generators have been suggested as

4813
02:49:03,429 --> 02:49:01,920
the cause for those silo shutdowns there

4814
02:49:07,670 --> 02:49:03,439
you go

4815
02:49:12,150 --> 02:49:10,230
yeah a couple more i'm tired also too

4816
02:49:13,830 --> 02:49:12,160
many of those ufo and missile silo cases

4817
02:49:15,590 --> 02:49:13,840
have no basis in reality there's no

4818
02:49:17,670 --> 02:49:15,600
doubt the silo went down temporarily but

4819
02:49:19,670 --> 02:49:17,680
there never was a ufo sighting present

4820
02:49:21,750 --> 02:49:19,680
at the time

4821
02:49:25,110 --> 02:49:21,760
can i tell you what i thought about it

4822
02:49:27,590 --> 02:49:25,120
like look at robert salas he parrots

4823
02:49:29,030 --> 02:49:27,600
richard dodie especially in his recent

4824
02:49:30,469 --> 02:49:29,040
interviews

4825
02:49:33,030 --> 02:49:30,479
and anybody

4826
02:49:34,469 --> 02:49:33,040
especially robert salas who is supposed

4827
02:49:36,790 --> 02:49:34,479
to be

4828
02:49:40,150 --> 02:49:36,800
like one of our

4829
02:49:43,110 --> 02:49:40,160
main historical commentators on this

4830
02:49:45,830 --> 02:49:43,120
when he comes out later years and he's

4831
02:49:46,950 --> 02:49:45,840
parodying richard dodie

4832
02:49:49,030 --> 02:49:46,960
that kind of makes me a little bit

4833
02:49:50,950 --> 02:49:49,040
skeptical on what he's saying and made

4834
02:49:53,190 --> 02:49:50,960
me look into it a little bit more how

4835
02:49:55,590 --> 02:49:53,200
exactly is he pirating dodie uh in

4836
02:49:56,950 --> 02:49:55,600
bonnie's i i mean i can send you an

4837
02:49:58,790 --> 02:49:56,960
interview and i can send you certain

4838
02:49:59,910 --> 02:49:58,800
clips and we'll absolutely try to do

4839
02:50:03,670 --> 02:49:59,920
that tomorrow

4840
02:50:07,110 --> 02:50:03,680
but he um has said hey you know what we

4841
02:50:09,269 --> 02:50:07,120
had bodies out of aliens out of area 51

4842
02:50:11,429 --> 02:50:09,279
that were shot and killed okay who else

4843
02:50:14,070 --> 02:50:11,439
has said that nobody else except for

4844
02:50:16,309 --> 02:50:14,080
richard dodie and george knapp so where

4845
02:50:18,469 --> 02:50:16,319
did he get that from richard dodie and

4846
02:50:20,469 --> 02:50:18,479
george knapp that makes me a little bit

4847
02:50:22,790 --> 02:50:20,479
wary of his claims

4848
02:50:24,230 --> 02:50:22,800
well if he's if he's talking about has

4849
02:50:25,590 --> 02:50:24,240
he done that with his missile stuff

4850
02:50:27,429 --> 02:50:25,600
you're just talking about just with the

4851
02:50:29,190 --> 02:50:27,439
alien body stuff

4852
02:50:31,269 --> 02:50:29,200
no he said his whole mental claim and

4853
02:50:32,150 --> 02:50:31,279
then he come out afterwards and said the

4854
02:50:34,870 --> 02:50:32,160
whole

4855
02:50:36,710 --> 02:50:34,880
this is our basically our history we

4856
02:50:39,190 --> 02:50:36,720
have this we have aliens that have been

4857
02:50:41,429 --> 02:50:39,200
killed at this base or that base okay

4858
02:50:44,150 --> 02:50:41,439
somebody as

4859
02:50:46,870 --> 02:50:44,160
read into and as uh

4860
02:50:48,150 --> 02:50:46,880
high standing as robert salas surely he

4861
02:50:50,309 --> 02:50:48,160
would know what he was talking about

4862
02:50:51,910 --> 02:50:50,319
right

4863
02:50:53,830 --> 02:50:51,920
and i need to see exactly what you're

4864
02:50:55,429 --> 02:50:53,840
talking about so all right

4865
02:50:59,429 --> 02:50:55,439
i will i will i promise you i'll send it

4866
02:51:04,070 --> 02:51:01,830
talking about marine and plasma

4867
02:51:06,550 --> 02:51:04,080
i don't know about plasma so i really

4868
02:51:08,950 --> 02:51:06,560
cannot say um

4869
02:51:10,389 --> 02:51:08,960
he brought up something recently that

4870
02:51:12,550 --> 02:51:10,399
you know

4871
02:51:13,990 --> 02:51:12,560
ball lightning is attributed plasma

4872
02:51:18,550 --> 02:51:14,000
plasma is

4873
02:51:21,110 --> 02:51:18,560
engraved in every part of

4874
02:51:21,990 --> 02:51:21,120
the human aspect and factor all the way

4875
02:51:25,030 --> 02:51:22,000
from

4876
02:51:28,309 --> 02:51:25,040
our bodies up into our atmosphere

4877
02:51:31,349 --> 02:51:28,319
so there's a possibility that plasma is

4878
02:51:33,269 --> 02:51:31,359
a living microorganism

4879
02:51:35,750 --> 02:51:33,279
what and this was brought up in a space

4880
02:51:37,030 --> 02:51:35,760
that joel did not long ago

4881
02:51:39,349 --> 02:51:37,040
who's to say

4882
02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:39,359
that a group of these

4883
02:51:42,710 --> 02:51:41,279
living microorganisms doesn't come

4884
02:51:44,070 --> 02:51:42,720
together

4885
02:51:47,670 --> 02:51:44,080
and

4886
02:51:49,670 --> 02:51:47,680
is able to basically mimic

4887
02:51:51,910 --> 02:51:49,680
whatever that we're seeing

4888
02:51:53,510 --> 02:51:51,920
and trick us

4889
02:51:55,590 --> 02:51:53,520
it's just one of those avenues that he

4890
02:51:58,070 --> 02:51:55,600
was going down before he was shut up and

4891
02:52:06,950 --> 02:51:58,080
kicked out of twitter that i would like

4892
02:52:10,550 --> 02:52:08,950
you brought him up but he was he's he

4893
02:52:12,469 --> 02:52:10,560
self-evicted out of twitter he wasn't

4894
02:52:13,830 --> 02:52:12,479
yeah but i i brought up what he was

4895
02:52:15,429 --> 02:52:13,840
doing and what he was talking about in

4896
02:52:18,070 --> 02:52:15,439
his research

4897
02:52:19,510 --> 02:52:18,080
yeah i just i just don't have time

4898
02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:19,520
well yeah i don't i don't want to go

4899
02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:21,040
there now it's too late we'll be here

4900
02:52:24,550 --> 02:52:22,720
another hour because i know people would

4901
02:52:26,550 --> 02:52:24,560
love to go after that and

4902
02:52:28,230 --> 02:52:26,560
i can't not right now any other time any

4903
02:52:29,750 --> 02:52:28,240
other live stream whatever they want and

4904
02:52:30,950 --> 02:52:29,760
you're back we can talk about that but i

4905
02:52:32,790 --> 02:52:30,960
really do want to see agreed i'm

4906
02:52:35,030 --> 02:52:32,800
exhausted let's go

4907
02:52:36,389 --> 02:52:35,040
yeah um

4908
02:52:38,710 --> 02:52:36,399
same guy saying the same thing all right

4909
02:52:40,630 --> 02:52:38,720
i'm gonna i'm gonna end it thank you so

4910
02:52:43,429 --> 02:52:40,640
much for taking the time to be here

4911
02:52:45,590 --> 02:52:43,439
jessica and for people

4912
02:52:47,030 --> 02:52:45,600
watching i mean we had we had a nice we

4913
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:47,040
had a nice crowd for sunday night i

4914
02:52:51,429 --> 02:52:48,399
don't think we don't have any other

4915
02:52:53,349 --> 02:52:51,439
competition for ratings so it was good

4916
02:52:55,110 --> 02:52:53,359
um

4917
02:52:56,550 --> 02:52:55,120
i know some people didn't like that we

4918
02:52:57,750 --> 02:52:56,560
interrupted but i didn't want to read

4919
02:53:00,070 --> 02:52:57,760
straight through and if you have any

4920
02:53:01,510 --> 02:53:00,080
other comments about paper i mean yeah

4921
02:53:02,950 --> 02:53:01,520
he's throwing everything at the kitchen

4922
02:53:04,070 --> 02:53:02,960
sink here my favorite thing is talking

4923
02:53:05,030 --> 02:53:04,080
about how they live amongst us and

4924
02:53:06,790 --> 02:53:05,040
they're just trying to protect

4925
02:53:08,230 --> 02:53:06,800
themselves because we would damage them

4926
02:53:09,670 --> 02:53:08,240
if we knew they were here i like that

4927
02:53:11,590 --> 02:53:09,680
theory the most but i don't know it

4928
02:53:12,950 --> 02:53:11,600
could be so many different things

4929
02:53:14,710 --> 02:53:12,960
i don't care if they were pissed off

4930
02:53:16,469 --> 02:53:14,720
that we interrupted and actually broke

4931
02:53:17,990 --> 02:53:16,479
the paper down with our thoughts because

4932
02:53:19,670 --> 02:53:18,000
that was the whole point of it i would

4933
02:53:23,510 --> 02:53:19,680
not

4934
02:53:25,429 --> 02:53:23,520
like that you can go read it

4935
02:53:27,110 --> 02:53:25,439
like our whole point of this was to

4936
02:53:29,110 --> 02:53:27,120
break it down and that's what we did i

4937
02:53:31,269 --> 02:53:29,120
was people were criticizing you for

4938
02:53:32,630 --> 02:53:31,279
doing it but if i was by myself i would

4939
02:53:34,150 --> 02:53:32,640
be doing the same thing i'm not just

4940
02:53:36,389 --> 02:53:34,160
going to read it and not comment

4941
02:53:39,510 --> 02:53:36,399
otherwise why even do that i'm not i'm

4942
02:53:40,870 --> 02:53:39,520
not a i'm not a scribe as as somebody

4943
02:53:42,870 --> 02:53:40,880
called me one time sometimes i'll read

4944
02:53:44,150 --> 02:53:42,880
stuff but i'll always i'll always jump

4945
02:53:48,230 --> 02:53:44,160
in so

4946
02:53:53,349 --> 02:53:50,150
and there's ken i know we've seen ken

4947
02:53:55,190 --> 02:53:53,359
before on no that's a matter yeah

4948
02:53:57,750 --> 02:53:55,200
why do i not yeah this is hard for me to

4949
02:53:59,110 --> 02:53:57,760
keep track of everything but

4950
02:54:00,389 --> 02:53:59,120
yeah it was good it was a good first

4951
02:54:01,910 --> 02:54:00,399
show um

4952
02:54:03,670 --> 02:54:01,920
i want to do interviews i definitely

4953
02:54:05,510 --> 02:54:03,680
want to do the paul eno interview maybe

4954
02:54:06,950 --> 02:54:05,520
you can join me for that and

4955
02:54:08,389 --> 02:54:06,960
i'm going to say good night good night

4956
02:54:10,870 --> 02:54:08,399
to you good night to everybody else

4957
02:54:12,389 --> 02:54:10,880
thanks for watching guys

4958
02:54:14,710 --> 02:54:12,399
good night joe it was great thank you

4959
02:54:16,710 --> 02:54:14,720
for inviting me on yeah thanks for being

4960
02:54:18,950 --> 02:54:16,720
here i'll do it again

4961
02:54:21,269 --> 02:54:18,960
all right bye bye

4962
02:54:23,110 --> 02:54:21,279
all right guys thanks again um

4963
02:54:25,030 --> 02:54:23,120
nice crowd i was only gonna go two hours

4964
02:54:26,550 --> 02:54:25,040
but we went three hours

4965
02:54:28,630 --> 02:54:26,560
um i know people want to talk about the

4966
02:54:30,150 --> 02:54:28,640
morning thing we can anytime just not

4967
02:54:33,510 --> 02:54:30,160
right now um

4968
02:54:35,110 --> 02:54:33,520
when there's no paper i can just do a no

4969
02:54:37,030 --> 02:54:35,120
topic

4970
02:54:39,030 --> 02:54:37,040
issue i really don't wanna

4971
02:54:40,469 --> 02:54:39,040
i mean i've expressed my opinions on

4972
02:54:41,910 --> 02:54:40,479
that on twitter so

4973
02:54:43,670 --> 02:54:41,920
they're pretty clear and i just said it

4974
02:54:45,349 --> 02:54:43,680
now i mean

4975
02:54:46,870 --> 02:54:45,359
i don't wanna talk about it without just

4976
02:54:48,469 --> 02:54:46,880
here it's kinda not fair since we could

4977
02:54:50,469 --> 02:54:48,479
have talked about it but i'm tired i'm

4978
02:54:52,309 --> 02:54:50,479
sorry but i'll do more i'm doing more

4979
02:54:54,710 --> 02:54:52,319
i've been doing more um and i'm going to

4980
02:54:56,790 --> 02:54:54,720
have michael by on to talk about um

4981
02:54:59,429 --> 02:54:56,800
unconventional flying objects which he

4982
02:55:01,349 --> 02:54:59,439
said it's like a very important book and

4983
02:55:02,950 --> 02:55:01,359
the fact that

4984
02:55:04,630 --> 02:55:02,960
paul hill was able to figure out where

4985
02:55:06,230 --> 02:55:04,640
the ufos would show up and go there it

4986
02:55:08,389 --> 02:55:06,240
was really interesting to me and the guy

4987
02:55:09,830 --> 02:55:08,399
was not he was worked for nasa i forget

4988
02:55:11,269 --> 02:55:09,840
what his title is but

4989
02:55:13,190 --> 02:55:11,279
michael has written an article on it and

4990
02:55:14,630 --> 02:55:13,200
we'll just talk about that and um so